From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com>
Hi Jacques,
On Feb 26, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
So, to be consistent, we should swap our stable demo from 09.4 to 10.04 and keep 09.04 as old demo like Christian began to work
on it. We will see ASAP I guess...
We will then also update the index page to let people know they can still test/use the oldest demo (would be 09.04 until next
swap).
thanks for bringing up this topic, it was the next in my todo list.
There are a few things to discuss about the way we have setup our demos:
* we publish a link to the trunk demo from the main page: this is very useful for developers but I doubt it is compliant with the
ASF policies; I propose to keep the demo but remove the link from the site pages (we will keep the info in the Wiki and share the
url in Jira or dev list communications)
Are you sure ASF has policies about what should be demoed and what should not? But finally if we would want both it's more a
resource issues, see below...
* instead of demoing releases we are actually demoing release branches; this is less critical than the above point but still not
completely ok with the ASF policies; we can address this in one of the following ways:
a) ignore the problem for now (having a running instance of each of the release branches is useful for developers but also for
users)
Yes, really. It's easier for both parts to exchanges about popping issues. I'm ok to be at the service of users, but I wonder if
it's worth the effort on this aspect...
b) build the demos on latest official releases instead of branches; and possibly add new instances for the branches as well (but
publish, in the indexpage, the url to the official releases only)
We have not enough places for more than 3 demos. Users can build their own demos locally. Of course unofficial demo servers could be
used, but it has been proved in the past that it's easier to have only Apache demos to maintain... Things are pretty stable for a
while (apart some unexplained Derby issues recently), of course running real realeas unstead would not change that much. Only that
we would lose the very handy part for committers (3 instances running is great).
c) hide the links to the demo instances from the main page
* personally (but this is minor) I don't like the names: "demo-trunk", "demo-old"... I would prefer a cleaner approach where the
names are neutral like "test1", "test2" etc... or "demo1", "demo2" etc... we will then decide what to publish on them
* I don't like the name "stable release" because we have actually several stable release that are valid at the same time:
currently 09.04.02 and 10.04 are both stable releases; soon we will also have 11.04.01 stable release
demo-trunk and demo-stable name were 1st suggested by infra. Then we agreed on
demo-old for the penultimate
Summary:
1) demos are useful to users and developers
2) links to demos for users should be shown in the ofbiz site; links to demos for developers should be kept in the dev
list/Jira/wiki
We would need more resources and I doubt infra will agree. Same issues for the
2 points below
To be discussed more... ;o)
Jacques
3) demos for users should be based on official releases only: 09.04.02, 10.04
4) demos for developers should be based on trunk and active release branches,
currently: trunk, 10.04, 11.04 (and soon 12.04)
Kind regards,
Jacopo
