On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:

> On 02/27/2012 06:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacopo Cappellato" 
>> <jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>> To: <dev@ofbiz.apache.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts on OFBiz demo instances
> ........
>>> So my point is: why are we demoing the trunk to users (the ofbiz main page 
>>> is mostly addressed to them) if the users will not be able to use the code 
>>> until is released (and this could take up to a year)? If, as you mention, 
>>> it is a useful resource for developers (and I completely agree with you) we 
>>> should probably move the urls (or at least clarify the labels) to another 
>>> place in order to avoid any confusion.
>> 
>> Agreed, trunk should be keeped as demo but removed from main page
>> 
> No I do not think so for the following reasons:
> 1. OFBiz is not for end users anyway: can an end-user setup a e-commerce 
> shop? Can he intialize and install the system? He ALWAYS need help.

The "user" here is the Company using the software: it could be a big company 
with a big internal IT or a software company selling services to its 
customers... they both would be end users of OFBiz; and yes I know a lot 
"users" that are using ofbiz (possibly customizing it a lot) that are using one 
release and not the trunk.

> 2. The trunk is as stable as the other versions, with a lot of enhancement 
> added.

The fact that it is not officially approved for release by the PMC is an 
*important* difference that any PMC member must understand and accept; we can 
work together releasing more often etc... but we cannot ignore this rule.

> 3. If we refactoring we keep it in a separate branch until it is unlikely to 
> upset other functions.

I don't understand the above statement.

> 
> so we should keep it as a demo on the front page.
> 

As I said above, keeping url of the demo of the trunk in the main page is not a 
violation of ASF rules in itself, but it is important that the link is not 
unclear or confusing to users.

Jacopo

> Regards,
> Hans

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