On Sep 16, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> > Le 16/09/2014 11:57, Scott Gray a écrit : >> I think it would be better if contributors used individual accounts. Since >> there was no ill intent and infra is already taking care of the issue I'm >> not sure there's much to discuss. > > I believe there were no ill intents. This page tends to prove it > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/~hwmofbizus : only good things > there. > But we know that the Apache way is about individual *meritocracy* and only > persons are responsible of their acts. > A PMC chair shall not forget that point: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8229, nor a PMC member like Anil. Premise: there are several similar non-personal users in the ASF Jira that submit Jira tickets (for OFBiz and other ASF projects) and, as far as I know, no one has complained or disabled them (see for example brema-dev, opensocial.qa, blackbox.dev, teamhiro...); not all I do is with my PMC Chair on. That account was just an experiment, a failed one I have to say, to facilitate the exchange of information between the OFBiz community and an HWM team that Anil has setup in order to facilitate our company contribution to the OFBiz project; the team is composed by analysts, designers, developers and testers. The idea was that the whole team could work on a contribution, possibly discussing the details with the community, and then either deliver the work to the community (patch in Jira) or communicate with one of the committers in our team; at that point the committer would have taken charge of the contribution (I think this is similar with what Hans is doing with several of his commits). Rather than mentioning all the people of the team in the commit log, the idea was to mention the team, with the committer taking ownership of the code change. It was probably not a great idea and I am ok to step back: maybe, rather than asking the Infra team to disable the account you could have mention your concerns to Anil or me, but I am not complaining for your action, the heated discussions in the last days may have played a role in your decision. It is not a big deal for HWM, we will just adjust this process and have individual communications with the community. > The only things I'm a bit worry about is how deserving individuals can be > recognised if they are only seen through contributions of their company? I agree this is an open and still unresolved topic: HWM has several employees that would be great OFBiz committers but in the past there were concerns from some of you about the fact that HWM could be represented by too many persons. We will see how it goes. > > As the motto says: "community before code" +1 Jacopo > > Jacques > >> >> By the way, could you please pick a single list to send to? Cross-posting >> is annoying and results in a bunch of duplicated or disjointed discussions >> in the archives. >> >> Regards >> Scott >> >> On 16/09/2014, at 9:43 pm, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> Recently I saw some changes to wiki pages and some comments to JIRA issues >>> made by user hmwofbizus with name Hotwax Media OFBiz Team. >>> >>> But who is Hotwax Media OFBiz Team? Is that one person or a group of >>> persons using the same account? >>> >>> Is this what we want in an open source project under the umbrella of the >>> ASF? It seems to me that it makes it harder to attribute contributions to >>> individuals and to bestow merit and thanks to the person. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Pierre Smits >>> >>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>> Services and Retail & Trade >>> http://www.orrtiz.com >> >> >
