As I already have explained in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5464, in the first quarter of this year, a release could even be more compact.
Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > That is not difficult to assess. Do a download from trunk, and see how > many Mb's are transferred. Do a ./ant clean-all. Subsequently remove all > hidden files in .svn folders. Finally do a zip of the cleaned download and > compare the original amount of Mb's with the size of the zip file. That > difference is what is saved on storage and transfer cost of trunk code. > > Now multiply that with the number of branches you had in mind. > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > > > Op 13 nov. 2014 om 22:32 heeft Jacques Le Roux < > jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> het volgende geschreven: > > > > > > Le 13/11/2014 21:25, Ron Wheeler a écrit : > >> Is it Apache's concern that while people may be free to choose, ASF > server capacity is not free nor unlimited? > >> > >> I doubt that OFBiz really puts a big load on the ASF infrastructure but > users are not supposed to be downloading from the SVN. > >> They are supposed to get downloads from local mirrors. > > > > You said it :) At the moment I don't fear any overload on the svn server > from users downloading from releases branches instead of released packages. > OFBiz is not Tomcat ;) > > But I must say I have no measures, so you got a point until-we/if-we-can > discover that. Because users can already do that, I think it's fair to use > this method as long as it's reasonable. > > Of course, having that suggested in a TLP project could be viewed as an > abuse from the Board, but let's be pragmatic, numbers should tell us the > truth (if can get them) > > > >> > >> That may be the practical side of Apache's urging to get the releases > following their guidelines. > > > > Yes for Tomcat, HTTPD or such that's understandable. For OFBiz I "fear" > it's not a problem. Can we discuss with the board in case, instead of > hiding behind unknown numbers? > > > > Jacques > > > >> > >> Ron > >> > >> > >>> On 13/11/2014 3:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > >>> > >>> Le 13/11/2014 20:03, Ron Wheeler a écrit : > >>>> Does this solve ASF's issue about having users access the main > servers? > >>> > >>> I don't try to solve an issue, just to propose an alternative. It's a > free user choice, but with more elements > >>> > >>>> What do you put on the mirrors and how do you stop users from > accessing the development SVN which is ASF's concern? > >>> > >>> Things stay as they are, it's only that we inform our users than > another way is possible and we give them enough elements of comparison to > choice, it's called freedom > >>> > >>> Jacques > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Ron > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On 13/11/2014 1:55 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > >>>>> For the licence free issues (an other related stuff) we could put a > disclaimer in the wiki page where all alternatives would be explained > >>>>> > >>>>> Jacques > >>>>> > >>>>> Le 13/11/2014 12:38, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit : > >>>>>> In the past the ASF Board asked to the OFBiz PMC to fix the release > >>>>>> strategy of the project by providing officially voted release files > thru > >>>>>> the ASF mirrors: at that time we were pushing the users to get the > trunk. > >>>>>> Officially asking the user to use a release branch would be better > than the > >>>>>> trunk but would bring back similar concerns: an official vote is > required > >>>>>> to publish a product to the outside of the project in order to > guarantee > >>>>>> License free issues etc... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux < > >>>>>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> In a recent user ML threadhttp:// > markmail.org/message/ivjocjr2ull7lwqe I > >>>>>>> suggested we could propose our users to use a release branch > strategy > >>>>>>> rather than downloaded packages. > >>>>>>> And that we could expose this way of doing in our download page, > or maybe > >>>>>>> better with a link to an explaining page (in details) in the wiki. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I know it's not the recommended way of doing at the ASF. But we > all know > >>>>>>> the OFBiz differences when compared with other TLPs which are > mostly libs, > >>>>>>> and even mostly jars. > >>>>>>> Most of us are actually using this way in their custom projects > and I have > >>>>>>> a feeling it would not only help our users but also us to support > them. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What do you think? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> >
