What is the effect of this strategy on the implied warranty?
 What is "guaranteed to be tested?
Where will the test results for the release be available?

What is the responsibility of someone who changes the release branch after it is "released" in terms of testing, support and documentation?
Is this going to make fixing bugs found in a release to onerous?

What is the effect on documentation and the web site in terms of describing the release?

Ron

On 28/11/2014 5:24 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Afterthought: we agreed about having the same setting in both the releases branches and the trunk. So if we disable a component in the releases branches it will be also in the trunk. Then, even we enable tests, we will not be aware of UI related issues and globally all those which are no covered by tests. Apart if an users enable the component and report issues.

This might be a compromise, but we need our users to be aware of. So they will need to be warned in the download page IMO.

Also if you remember this thread started with my idea of creating a wiki page to explain to our users the alternative strategy of using release branches rather than released packages. I'd like to have a direct link to this wiki page from the download page. This link name could be simply "alternative strategy". What do you think?

I will stop this thread here and will create a new thread to discuss the modality of putting back the specialpurpose components in the R13.07 branch.

Jacques


Le 27/11/2014 23:38, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
That sounds like a good enough solution to me

Jacques

Le 27/11/2014 19:41, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
This is a good point. We could find a way to programmatically enable/disable the components just for the test run:

./ant -Denable-all=true clean-all load-demo run-tests

but this is just an idea; we could figure out the best way to go.

Jacopo


On Nov 27, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Adrian Crum <adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com> wrote:

Be aware that disabling a component does two things:

1. Speeds up unit tests because the disabled component is excluded from them. 2. Increases the chance of regressions because the disabled component is not being tested.

Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 11/27/2014 5:41 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
On Nov 27, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

Yes, so we need to define which are those components. So 3 points, which should be discussed separately it seems, not sure of the order yet but probably this one 1) Components to move to Attic. They will be freezed but still available in this state in Attic (in other words slowly dying) 2) Components to disable. They will be maintained, but OOTB will not interfere with other components (applications or other specialpurpose) 3) Components to keep enabled. They must be maintained and have no interactions with other components
Components enabled and disabled must be maintained in the same way: it is not that a group is more important than the other. Also, disabling a component doesn't mean that it will not go in a release: we could have disabled components in releases and enabled components excluded from a release or vice versa.

For the point 2 we need to clarify if it could applies to trunk also. I'd now tend to avoid differences between trunk and branch releases, at the functionality or other levels.
I agree that the same settings should be maintained in the trunk and in the release branches.

Jacopo


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