Le 21/04/2015 10:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
Hi Jacques and all,
I think that sharing more than anything is a reason why git has an
advantage. The distributed system means that every developer is a
repository and therefore you can have endless chains of code propagation up
to a committer. Just imagine a scenario like the following
- A team is composed of people working on a major task
- Two of the members (A and B) have their own sub-teams
- There is exchange of code between the sub-teams, the major team and the
project committer. Furthermore, the sub-teams need to pull updated data
from the main repository of the project.
So you have two integrators at the sub-team level and one integrator at the
top team level plus a project committer. Sometimes, I want to pull code
from the sub-team. Sometimes I want to pull code from the _other_ team.
Then maybe I want to _merge_ work from both teams and run all tests. Then I
want to clean the commit log with "git rebase" to cleanup the history into
major commits to submit to the project committer. Now the project owner
does not know / trust me but he knows / trusts you. And you in turn trust
me so you can accept my commits.
I cannot imagine how to implement the above without a distributed source
code management system. Furthermore, it's important to note that ofbiz is
not a closed proprietary project with a sacred repository hidden in the
vault of some company. You _need_ contributions from others and you need to
make it very easy and accessible. You need to have the ability for people
to form teams and sub-teams to support you and your project by
collaborating with each other without needing a committer. This is one of
the main reasons for the massive success of the Linux Kernel where each of
Linus Torvald's lieutenants is a committer for a sub-system with his/her
own people they trust and work closely with. Some of this stuff is briefly
shown in here http://www.git-scm.com/about/distributed
I hope what I wrote is resonating with you and you're willing to give this
idea a chance
OK, you kind of answered to my questions to Adam, I need to re-read carefully...
Jacques
Taher Alkhateeb
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
Le 21/04/2015 02:08, Ean Schuessler a écrit :
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacques Le Roux" <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
Subject: Re: move to git.
Like Adrian and mostly for the same reasons, I don't believe we need Git.
But there is one other major reason which has already been discussed in
the
other common ASF MLs. As Taher exulted, it's possible to create local
branches. So people are able to do a lot of work alone without
exchanging before
committing or submitting. It will certainly not help to have this
possibility.
I disagree. It is useful in many situations for OFBiz developers to
create a
local repository that is not globally shared.
What about https://github.com/apache/ofbiz ?
Some customers may even require
such a situation for security or legal reasons.
People can do what they want with OFBiz code on their side, sharing with
the community is something else (and often harder)
Jacques
Remember our recent discussion on the lack or core commits reviews.
With Git you end with commits bursts or big patches and it's then
hard to review and too late to share ideas.
So unlike Adrian, I'm even strongly against it. I will not hesitate to
use a -1
if necessary!
We are also prepared to be assertive regarding this situation. If the
project
does not move to GIT then Brainfood is willing to participate in a
consortium of
organizations that will peer with each other to share updates to the
master
branch for their local OFBiz repository. Such an arrangement will,
effectively,
result in a distributed master repository image.
If anyone else is interested in such an arrangement please feel free to
speak
up and we can begin the planning process.
