Are we still talking about entity definitions?

I would like to see where the universal data model misses elements
regarding any locale.

Best regards,

Pierre

On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com>
wrote:

> a) I am not sure why applications/datamodel/entitidef/ could not be
> entitydef/ since it is shorter and unambiguous and spells entity correctly.
> b) I thought that hot-deploy was for local customizations. "entitydef/..."
> are user contributed libraries that are part of the standard OFBiz project
> to support industry-specific or locale-specific requirements.
> c) I am suggesting a structure that makes it easy for someone customizing
> their implementation. Take all the xml files under entitydef ( or
> entitydef/default or entity/basic) and overwrite them with the set of XML
> files suitable for the particular locale that you want such as
> entitydef/eCommerce/NAFTA to get the definitions that match an eCommerce
> site in North America US and Canada terminology and the extensions or
> modifications required to support an eCommerce-only OFBiz aimed at a North
> American clientele.
> If the system integrator does further customization and wants to put their
> branding or  customer-specific overrides in hot-deploy at run-time to keep
> them separate from the XML files that come from OFBiz, that sounds like a
> good practice but is different from the shared library structure we are
> discussing.
>
> Does that clarify my points?
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> On 12/06/2015 9:51 AM, Nicolas Malin wrote:
>
>> Ron I didn't understand why you want adding specialization directory
>> directly on main component (like entitydef/general/UK/).
>>
>> For me this information need to be set on the dedicate component in
>> hot-deploy.
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>> Le 12/06/2015 13:17, Ron Wheeler a écrit :
>>
>>> It would be nice to get the philosophy of the structure agreed at the
>>> beginning even if there is only one variant of accounting-entitymodel.xml .
>>> It might prevent conflicts over the content of some of the files and
>>> encourage more contributors who are confident about how their definitions
>>> work but are unwilling to change someone else's working set of entities, to
>>> contribute their variants.
>>>
>>> For example, I could  supply my idea of what the Canadian
>>> accounting-entitymodel.xml should contain without breaking something that
>>> others are using.
>>>
>>> An alternative scheme that might be easier to use would be to structure
>>> the files as
>>> entitydef/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>> entitydef/ecommerce-entitymodel.xml
>>> entitydef/general/UK/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>> entitydef/general/UK/ecommerce-entitymodel.xml
>>>
>>> I am not sure that adding applications/datamodel to the front adds any
>>> value
>>> entitydef is pretty unambiguous.
>>>
>>> Putting the variants first would mean that all of the default entity
>>> definitions are in one folder and general/UK would all be in another.
>>> To get a complete set, copy everything from entitydef and then copy
>>> everything from entitydef/general/UK to get the overrides required t create
>>> the UK variant.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> On 12/06/2015 2:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
>>>> Le 11/06/2015 21:10, Ron Wheeler a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> I would suggest adding other levels to the structure so that
>>>>> specializations are easy to add without creating conflicts or constant 
>>>>> flux
>>>>> as people alter the accounting-entitymodel.xml to suit their needs and
>>>>> submit it as the "right" version".
>>>>>
>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>> might be better structured as
>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/demo/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/general/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/manufacturing/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/professionalServices/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/eCommerce/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> It may be that the first specialization will be by country or region
>>>>> to get the vocabulary or regulatory compliance particularities separated
>>>>>
>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/general/UK/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/general/NAFTA/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/general/NAFTA_MX/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/general/EU/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/demo/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/demo/EU/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/demo/NAFTA/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/manufacturing/EU/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/professionalServices/EU?accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/eCommerce/EU/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly we would start out with only the demo set but I think that we
>>>>> could quickly get some of the other alternatives in place as people
>>>>> contribute versions that they want to be part of the basic set.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it make sense to break accounting-entitymodel.xml into separate
>>>>> files for mandatory and optional entities to make it clear the entities
>>>>> that can be modified or dropped without affecting OOB functionality?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not against the idea, though it needs to be discussed more
>>>> Anyway it can be done later as we will go with baby steps as Jacopo
>>>> suggested
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ron
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/06/2015 10:18 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
>>>>>> slidingfilame...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I would like to help and I think we need to think carefully of the
>>>>>>> layout / structure though i.e. how to breakup the entities in files 
>>>>>>> and/or
>>>>>>> directories.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would suggest that, at least in the first step, we do it in a
>>>>>> simple way like the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) create the new component, named for example "datamodel" (please
>>>>>> suggest a better name)
>>>>>> 2) move all the entity xml files from the applications to the
>>>>>> "datamodel" component keeping the files separated as they are, but 
>>>>>> adding a
>>>>>> prefix; for example
>>>>>>
>>>>>> applications/accounting/entitidef/entitymodel.xml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> will be moved to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> applications/datamodel/entitidef/accounting-entitymodel.xml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The end result will be a "datamodel" component with an entitidef/
>>>>>> folder containing several files, approximately one per application 
>>>>>> component
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) similar approach for eeca files
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) add the relevant entries in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> applications/datamodel/ofbiz-component.xml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacopo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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