Hi David, Quite a long list of emails you've sent. Not saying its a bad thing, but just getting caught up on them.
So, looking at OpenAz's proposal, you're not listed as an initial committer. You would have needed to be invited as a committer on the project. At this point, the existing PPMC seems to have disbanded. There would be nothing stopping someone from forking on github and creating a separate project to continue on OpenAz, but as a different name. John On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 6:45 PM David Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > So maybe the issue is just that the few involved contributors we have are > new to Apache, and they were never really brought up to date on how this > stuff actually works. And they weren't ever made committers, so they > really couldn't do much with their initial surge of energy, which killed > any later energy, and it never built into anything, which resulted in no > real recruiting. > > So now that I know what's up, let's give it another go? Just make me and > anyone else interested a committer, and give us one more month to make > something happen. Then kill it if turns out there's not enough energy to > make it happen. > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 4:40 PM, David Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 3:57 PM, David Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Maybe my hands aren't tied. Here's what I'm looking for, maybe you can > >> tell me I've already got what I need: > >> > >> 1) Username / password to a system where I can make arbitrary updates to > >> the website. > >> > > > > After looking, this just requires committer status. > > > > > >> 2) Ability to grant that power to others. > >> > > > > There's kind of a community approach for this, although I'm not sure what > > our process is (officially, we should have this kind of figured out as a > > podling, there's no set method). So how do we decide on this? > > > > > >> 3) Be able to merge pull requests to the git website. > >> > > > > We can just fork it and own a new official base as far as github is > > concerned. Nothing needed here. > > > > > >> 4) Be able to grant that power to others. > >> > > > > That's a github thing. No need to discuss it here. > > > > > >> 5) Be able to pull any git updates into the official repository. > >> > > > > Committer status (same as 1) > > > > > >> 6) Have access to top-level management information, like URLs and access > >> info for all Apache OpenAZ resources. > >> > > > > Not sure this even exists. But if it does, access to it would be nice. > > Ideally, it would just be on the website we don't have yet, which would > > publish that information to anyone that visited our site. > > > > > >> 7) Be able to change that top-level management information. > >> > > > > Committer status. > > > > > > > > So I guess what I have realized is: I just need committer status. > > > > > >> That would be enough as a start. > >> > >> We need some movement, which requires just those things for now. Then > >> when there's movement, I've got at least 3 more people I could bring on > to > >> make little tweaks (which is all we really need for a first release). > >> > >> I also know how to use twitter well enough to drum up more hands and > >> feet. But without the power to make things happen (not just commit > code to > >> a fork on github, but actually make those merges happen), I'm not > getting > >> more people involved. > >> > >> So, do I have this power already and don't know it, or what? > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 3:46 PM, John D. Ament <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 4:45 PM David Ash <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > I've been ignoring this because my hands are tied for trying to help > >>> it. > >>> > But can we try moving to new management? Can I be put in charge? > >>> > > >>> > >>> I'm a bit confused by your statements. Who is management in this case? > >>> Your employer? The ASF? Why are your hands tied for trying to help? > >>> > >>> ASF projects have no one in charge of them. TLPs get a VP, whose main > >>> responsibility is keeping the project running. > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> > Send me links to the right resources and give me the credentials to > >>> make > >>> > things happen, and I might be able to recover it. > >>> > > >>> > >>> I'm not sure what recover it means. A community of 1 isn't a > community. > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016, 3:25 PM Farasath Ahamed <[email protected]> > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > +1 > >>> > > On Apr 19, 2016 2:41 AM, "Hadrian Zbarcea" <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > +1 > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Hadrian > >>> > > > > >>> > > > On 04/17/2016 11:40 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > >> All, > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> This is a formal vote to retire the OpenAz podling. This vote > is > >>> the > >>> > > >> second step in the retirement process and is used as an > indicator > >>> to > >>> > the > >>> > > >> IPMC about whether to retire the podling, as the final decision > >>> lies > >>> > > with > >>> > > >> the Incubator. > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> Unless one of the mentors wants to take it on, if the vote > passes > >>> here > >>> > > and > >>> > > >> on the IPMC list, I can take care of the retirement process (as > >>> > > described > >>> > > >> at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html ). > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> This vote will be open for 72 hours via lazy consensus. > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> Thanks, > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> John > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > > >
