> This is usually measuring whether the project is fully understanding the > ASF culture, including don't set the bar too high, and be open.
Yes, OpenDAL maintains a low bar for both committers and PPMC members: we've welcomed 2 new PPMC members and 9 new committers during the incubation period which is less than 9 months. > Committer and PMC member are same from privilege of codes. PMC members are > only taking more responsibilities to take actions on security, board > request, vote evaluation. > The common misunderstanding is, PMC members should have more power, or aka > more authority. +1 binding is a responsibility, not a power. I toally agree the comments here. PMC members will have more responsibility to take and this is why we set different bar for committers and PPMC members for now. I propose promoting committers to PPMC members based on their prior contributions before initiating our vote for graduation, rather than automatically including all existing committers as PPMC members. On Sat, Nov 18, 2023, at 19:46, Sheng Wu wrote: > Xuanwo <[email protected]>于2023年11月18日 周六19:36写道： > >> > Generally, all members of the PPMC will be included in the TLP PMC. All >> > members of the IPC will be invited to join the TLP PMC. >> >> LGTM. >> >> > I'll additionally suggest including all the current committers in the TLP >> > PMC unless there is a certain issue. >> >> Could you provide more background information on this suggestion? Both >> committers and PMC members earn their positions through contributions. >> Those who haven't been included as PPMC members likely lack sufficient >> contributions. It wouldn't be fair to include them just because OpenDAL is >> graduating. >> >> Indeed, we have several potential PPMC members. However, I believe we >> should promote them individually and separate this process from our project >> graduation. > > > This is usually measuring whether the project is fully understanding the > ASF culture, including don't set the bar too high, and be open. > Committer and PMC member are same from privilege of codes. PMC members are > only taking more responsibilities to take actions on security, board > request, vote evaluation. > The common misunderstanding is, PMC members should have more power, or aka > more authority. +1 binding is a responsibility, not a power. > > >> >> On Sat, Nov 18, 2023, at 19:13, tison wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Here is a sub-object on the project graduation - Have an agreement on the >> > members of the PMC[1]. >> > >> > Generally, all members of the PPMC will be included in the TLP PMC. All >> > members of the IPC will be invited to join the TLP PMC. >> > >> > I'll additionally suggest including all the current committers in the TLP >> > PMC unless there is a certain issue. >> > >> > And this thread is to reach a consensus on the proposal above. >> > >> > Best, >> > tison. >> > >> > [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/issues/3616 >> >> -- >> Xuanwo >> -- Xuanwo
