On Oct 1, 2011, at 3:02 PM, dsh wrote: > So call out the problem statement, the constraints and the final goal > in the beginning and you don't need to fear to having to fix whatever > pattern later on ;)
That would be the perfect scenario, yes. :) > PS: I suspect the goal at hand is -- as I learned to understand it > while reading this thread again -- to turn the mockup image into some > templates to get the website online ASAP. That's the idea. Or "an" idea at least :) -David > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:42 PM, David Blevins <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:59 PM, dsh wrote: >> >>> I wouldn't call it perfectionism. It is just that the constraints and >>> goals weren't pretty clear at the beginning of this thread ;) >> >> Yep. Vaguely stated at best. >> >>> The icons I requested aren't even related to the website itself... >> >> Right, was targeting the "collect ideas and get new proposal" statement >> which is dangerously close to "let's throw away what they gave us and try >> again". No one ever said that, just making sure we don't start a "bikeshed" >> pattern[1]. >> >> Probably the best way to phrase it: >> >> We can paint the bikeshed as many times as we want >> >> The fallacy of the bikeshed metaphore is that somehow everyone needs to >> agree on a color before you can paint the bikeshed. When in reality its a >> simple task and you can just paint the bikeshed and keep repainting it for >> as long as it takes. >> >> >> -David >> >> >> [1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bikeshed >> >>> >>> Cheers >>> Daniel >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:54 PM, David Blevins <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> FYI, to all. Chatting with Sally who does all the Apache announcements >>>> and it looks like either the 5th or 6th will be the date. Anything later >>>> than that and JavaOne is essentially over. So if we don't have something >>>> in place by then, we'll end up launching with the old site. >>>> >>>> If we get too picky I think we're going to learn a hard lesson in >>>> perfectionism. >>>> >>>> My recommendation would be for us to get the actual template files for the >>>> site as shown in the pic. Someone here can work on getting that turned >>>> into a velocity template and up on the site. Then we can push a new round >>>> of requirements at the designers. >>>> >>>> >>>> -David >>>> >>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Didn't get time yesterday to get something better. But, I can collect all >>>>> your ideas, requirements, etc and get a new proposal from our designers. >>>>> >>>>> Hopefully on Monday. >>>>> >>>>> Jean Louis >>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 22:27, "David Blevins" <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean. >>>>>> >>>>>> We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and >>>>> possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks. >>>>>> >>>>>> We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's >>>>>> only >>>>> temporary. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -David >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>>>>>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email >>>>>>>> regarding TomEE launch. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which >>>>> I >>>>>>> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template >>>>>>> to use for the launch. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be >>>>>>>>> perfect >>>>>>> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at >>>>> least >>>>>>> new and different enough. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the >>>>> new >>>>>>> web >>>>>>>>>> site. >>>>>>>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache >>>>> OpenEJB >>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Karan Singh Malhi >>>>>>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>
