That is a big help!  I'm headed to the airport in 5 minutes.  But if someone 
can get you admin access to confluence you could start playing around with the 
template.

Jean-louis and Jonathan are admins as are a few others (those are just the ones 
I remember adding recently).  They could hook you up.

Shoot me your confluence id.  Maybe there'll be net in the airport.

-David

On Oct 2, 2011, at 9:07 AM, dsh wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I tried to extract the relevant images [1] from the mockup. Does that
> already help creating a template? Next step would be creating a CSS
> for the various cast shadows in the left and right navigation panes.
> 
> [1] http://people.apache.org/~dsh/oejbsite/
> 
> Cheers
> Daniel
> 
> PS: I noticed that the mockup did contain some blur because of the
> JPEG format used to save the image.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:38 AM, David Blevins <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 3:02 PM, dsh wrote:
>> 
>>> So call out the problem statement, the constraints and the final goal
>>> in the beginning and you don't need to fear to having to fix whatever
>>> pattern later on ;)
>> 
>> That would be the perfect scenario, yes. :)
>> 
>>> PS: I suspect the goal at hand is -- as I learned to understand it
>>> while reading this thread again -- to turn the mockup image into some
>>> templates to get the website online ASAP.
>> 
>> That's the idea.  Or "an" idea at least :)
>> 
>> 
>> -David
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:42 PM, David Blevins <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:59 PM, dsh wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I wouldn't call it perfectionism. It is just that the constraints and
>>>>> goals weren't pretty clear at the beginning of this thread ;)
>>>> 
>>>> Yep.  Vaguely stated at best.
>>>> 
>>>>> The icons I requested aren't even related to the website itself...
>>>> 
>>>> Right, was targeting the "collect ideas and get new proposal" statement 
>>>> which is dangerously close to "let's throw away what they gave us and try 
>>>> again".  No one ever said that, just making sure we don't start a 
>>>> "bikeshed" pattern[1].
>>>> 
>>>> Probably the best way to phrase it:
>>>> 
>>>>   We can paint the bikeshed as many times as we want
>>>> 
>>>> The fallacy of the bikeshed metaphore is that somehow everyone needs to 
>>>> agree on a color before you can paint the bikeshed.   When in reality its 
>>>> a simple task and you can just paint the bikeshed and keep repainting it 
>>>> for as long as it takes.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -David
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bikeshed
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:54 PM, David Blevins <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> FYI, to all.  Chatting with Sally who does all the Apache announcements 
>>>>>> and it looks like either the 5th or 6th will be the date.  Anything 
>>>>>> later than that and JavaOne is essentially over.  So if we don't have 
>>>>>> something in place by then, we'll end up launching with the old site.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If we get too picky I think we're going to learn a hard lesson in 
>>>>>> perfectionism.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My recommendation would be for us to get the actual template files for 
>>>>>> the site as shown in the pic.  Someone here can work on getting that 
>>>>>> turned into a velocity template and up on the site.  Then we can push a 
>>>>>> new round of requirements at the designers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Didn't get time yesterday to get something better. But, I can collect 
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> your ideas, requirements, etc and get a new proposal from our designers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hopefully on Monday.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jean Louis
>>>>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 22:27, "David Blevins" <[email protected]> a écrit 
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and
>>>>>>> possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's 
>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> temporary.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
>>>>>>>>>> regarding TomEE launch.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, 
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great 
>>>>>>>>>>> template
>>>>>>>>> to use for the launch.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be 
>>>>>>>>>>> perfect
>>>>>>>>> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at
>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>> new and different enough.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache
>>>>>>> OpenEJB
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Karan Singh Malhi
>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 

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