They have moved to git less than a month ago :)
I was going to update our build to use EGit but had no time for this :((
I'll check the EGit (or will ask it's developers) if it can clone/update to
the specific git revision.

Tags will work as long as we will stay on the release :) Additionally we
can fork their repo and stay on the revision we need, but I would avoid
this if possible.


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 4:31 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What concerns me most is currently the red5 server process cpu while
> recording.
> "5) red5 version was more or less up to date in the trunk (4756),"
> Trunk is doing a Git checkout, so our old system using red5 revision
> numbers is not applicable anymore.
> I think the build.xml should be changed so that it does not checkout HEAD
> of https://github.com/Red5/red5-server.git, instead it should checkout a
> tag. I will ask the red5-devs to create a tag. I wonder why they did not do
> that in case they do a release or major milestone.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
>
>
>
> 2014-03-17 0:16 GMT+13:00 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Detailed answers:
> >
> > 1) there is now a FPS per second changer. How does that incorporate with
> > the recordings produced?
> > Video frames are now being captured using constant delay timer task (with
> > the FPS based delay)
> > If none frames are ready to be sent, "no_change" frame is sended
> >
> > 2)  Is the audio and the video in sync no matter what FPS I choose?
> > I believe so, Vasiliy has tested it and found no issues (if I'm not
> > mistaken), additional testing might be required
> >
> > 3) Did anybody monitor the red5 server process CPU while doing a
> > screen-sharing
> > recording?
> > No, we can perform such testing
> >
> > 4)  CPU usage jumps to 100% whenever I start recording.
> > I can also see lots of statements similar to this in the log output:
> > [INFO] [NioProcessor-4] org.red5.server.stream.codec.ScreenVideo -
> > Allocating memory for 748 compressed blocks.
> > I believe this is caused by creating CachedEvent and copy byte buffers
> >
> > 5) red5 version was more or less up to date in the trunk (4756),
> currently
> > trunk is updated to the latest git version (need to be additionaly
> > tested/fixed)
> >    a) client and server versions should be fixed (or we will have build
> > broken or unstable one day)
> >    b) screen sharing is broken (need to be investigated/fixed)
> >    c) up to r4756 red5 server was unstable while video is published this
> > should be tested more carefully
> >
> > 6) I think there is also a need to do it because partially some
> ressources
> > are no more available in the SVN repository
> > We have all necessary resources in our repocitory (just in case)
> >
> > 7) We could also consider downloading red5 server/client from Jenkins
> > I don't think it is good idea since we don't need HEAD version all the
> time
> > I'm trying to rewrite our build to be maven based (not very successful so
> > far) so I guess things will change a lot if this step will be
> implemented.
> > Until then I would leave the build as it is now
> >
> > 8) My red5 CPU load is also fine as long as I don't record something.
> > I'll try to double check on my machines
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:06 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> > seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > My red5 CPU load is also fine as long as I don't record something.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Sebastian
> > > On 16 Mar 2014 19:38, "Maxim Solodovnik" <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > trunk is building red5 using maven already
> > > > I'll review the code and merge compilation from the trunk.
> > > >
> > > > red5 was not updated in 3.0.x branch since video calls were broken
> > (still
> > > > broken in trunk, will check the release)
> > > >
> > > > I have not monitored server CPU, but it seems to be ~1% on my machine
> > > >
> > > > Will double check and provide detailed answers to all of your
> questions
> > > > later today :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:53 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Btw: We could also consider downloading red5 server/client from
> > > Jenkins:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/OpenMeetings/job/Red5-server/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/target/red5-server-1.0.2-M1-server.zip
> > > > >
> > > > > Although integrating Git and Maven build into ANT is also possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the preference ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sebastian
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2014-03-16 18:51 GMT+13:00 seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> > > seba.wag...@gmail.com
> > > > >:
> > > > >
> > > > > >  http://svn.apache.org/r1577984 does fix to do a Git checkout
> > using
> > > > the
> > > > > > latest code from their repository and for the client and server.
> > > > > > The folder structure is slightly different, needs some further
> > > > > adjustments.
> > > > > > Also I think some of the patches (Tomcat7 patch) is no more
> > required
> > > as
> > > > > > the latest red5 is already using Tomcat 7.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have created a ticket to capture the progress:
> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-950
> > > > > > It will require some more work and review before this piece of
> work
> > > is
> > > > > > ready to be merged back to any of the other branches.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However I think it might be useful for our CPU issues and moving
> > > > forward.
> > > > > > Getting rid of the Tomcat7 patches and SVN-kit checkout stuff
> seems
> > > to
> > > > > make
> > > > > > our life also a little bit easier.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sebastian
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2014-03-16 17:19 GMT+13:00 seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com
> > > > > >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think there is also a need to do it because partially some
> > > ressources
> > > > > >> are no more available in the SVN repository:
> > > > > >> http://red5.googlecode.com/svn/java/client/readme.txt
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 2014-03-16 15:25 GMT+13:00 seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com
> > > > > >:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I also tried updating to the latest release of Red5 (1.0.2 seems
> > to
> > > be
> > > > > >>> just released).
> > > > > >>> I was more or less successful.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> When using red5 in its latest version the CPU usage when doing
> a
> > > > screen
> > > > > >>> sharing of the red5 server side process is a lot less.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I can see that there are a couple of issues updating to the
> > latest
> > > > red5
> > > > > >>> versions. However letting them too much out of sync was always
> > > > > difficult in
> > > > > >>> the past as there are regularly changes that you need to
> > duplicate
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>> OpenMeetings API/Configuration files et cetera. And of course
> > > > > regression
> > > > > >>> testing is a pain.
> > > > > >>> However we rely on the improvements of the red5 server API.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> What is the current status of the red5 version? Our version
> r4393
> > > is
> > > > > >>> from 07/2012 (
> > https://code.google.com/p/red5/source/detail?r=4393)
> > > > :)
> > > > > >>> We should make a move I think. There seems to be maybe a good
> > point
> > > > now
> > > > > >>> when there is a new stable release to review a migration to the
> > > > latest
> > > > > >>> version.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> What do you think?
> > > > > >>> What are the current show stoppers from upgrading to the latest
> > > red5
> > > > > >>> version?
> > > > > >>> I can see a couple of issues when upgrading, but it seems there
> > is
> > > no
> > > > > >>> major incompatibility between OpenMeetings and later Red5
> > versions.
> > > > > Spring
> > > > > >>> is now 4.0 in red5. And some minor changes in the red5-web.xml.
> > > > > >>> And it seems like the .upload servlet is not correctly
> > initialized.
> > > > > >>> I can share my upgraded OpenMeetings instance if anybody is
> > > > interested.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Sebastian
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> 2014-03-16 14:28 GMT+13:00 seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>> :
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Regarding the Red5 CPU usage: I did a couple of tests. It does
> > not
> > > > seem
> > > > > >>>> to be like previously a writer problem (writer too slow to
> write
> > > > > packets to
> > > > > >>>> disk). Even if I comment out the stream listeners so that
> > nothing
> > > > > will be
> > > > > >>>> written to disk the CPU usage jumps to 100% whenever I start
> > > > > recording.
> > > > > >>>> I can also see lots of statements similar to this in the log
> > > output:
> > > > > >>>> [INFO] [NioProcessor-4]
> > org.red5.server.stream.codec.ScreenVideo -
> > > > > >>>> Allocating memory for 748 compressed blocks.
> > > > > >>>> [INFO] [NioProcessor-4]
> > org.red5.server.stream.codec.ScreenVideo -
> > > > > >>>> Allocating memory for 1305 compressed blocks.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> I have not seen this kind of logging output in past versions
> of
> > > > red5.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Sebastian
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> 2014-03-16 12:44 GMT+13:00 seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>> >:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Hi,
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> there is now a FPS per second changer. How does that
> > incorporate
> > > > with
> > > > > >>>>> the recordings produced? Is the audio and the video in sync
> no
> > > > > matter what
> > > > > >>>>> FPS I choose?
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Did anybody monitor the red5 server process CPU while doing a
> > > > > >>>>> screen-sharing recording? I can still see the CPU jump to
> 100%
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > >>>>> server process if I start a recording.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> It would be really good to have a demo server instead of
> doing
> > > this
> > > > > >>>>> local verification.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>>> Sebastian
> > > > > >>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>> Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > >>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > > > >>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > > > >>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > > > >>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> --
> > > > > >>>> Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > >>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > > > >>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > > > >>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > > > >>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> --
> > > > > >>> Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > >>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > > > >>> http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > > > >>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > > > >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > > > >> http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > > > >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > > > >> seba.wag...@gmail.com
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > > > > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > > > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > WBR
> > > > Maxim aka solomax
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wag...@gmail.com
>



-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

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