Armin, Thanks very much for your great work! I just recorded them in 4.0 planning wiki here<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Planning> .
- Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/1/2 Armin Le Grand <armin.le.gr...@me.com> > Hi List, > > I have now comitted the adapted version as discussed; please have a look > in one of the next versions. As with gradients - suggestions are welcome, > nothing i set in stone ;-) > > Sincerely, > Armin > > > On 20.12.2012 11:45, Armin Le Grand wrote: > >> Hi List, >> >> Talking about palettes is always difficult - at the end, it's a question >> of taste. Nonetheless, we need a palette which is by default installed with >> the office. You all know the current one (for years ;-)) which I think is >> far from optimal. Thus, I analyzed the current one and want to share my >> findings. From that, I want to propose a change for our next release. Also >> probably not optimal, but optimal in this field depends on the user's eye >> and cannot be met by a single palette anyways. >> >> Talking about palettes is also difficult since you need to 'see' >> something - pictures say more than words. To make that easier, I have >> prepared some data. Please look at >> >> A Impress document containing two slides (http://people.apache.org/~** >> alg/Palette/palette.odp<http://people.apache.org/~alg/Palette/palette.odp> >> ) >> The two slides as png's for convenience (http://people.apache.org/~** >> alg/Palette/palette.png<http://people.apache.org/~alg/Palette/palette.png>, >> http://people.apache.org/~alg/**Palette/palette2.png<http://people.apache.org/~alg/Palette/palette2.png> >> ) >> >> The following thext refers to figures there, so please take a look to see >> what the text is about (...if you want to continue reading ;-)) >> >> The current (old?) AOO Palette, It's made up of five groups (from my >> perspective): >> >> (a) The 16 VGA colors: These come originally from the times where only 16 >> colors were possible and are in hex color notation exactly all eight >> combinations of red/green/blue on or off, plus these in half intensity. It >> *had* technical reasons, but these colors do not have any special meaning >> for the user today (well, for the programmer). Anyways, they are a result >> of old technical limitations. I think they are ugly and lead to ugly >> results when using them directly (but that's my impression). >> >> (b) The 'Main' Colors: 56 colors which try to build up to eight >> gradient-stepped ranges, e.g. orange. These ranges are *not* equidistantly >> spread, but somewhat wild/random (see e.g. the reds). I do not know where >> they historically come from, but I guess they were done by a deveoper at >> these days. There are some nice colors among them, but not too many. I >> always search for useful colors there >> >> (c) The Pale colors: These seem to be younger than the others, may have >> to do historically with the StarOffice 5.2 color theme, but I'm not sure. >> Not too bad, not too good a selection. A group of seven colors which form a >> nice kind of 'schema' and make your presentation look 'acceptable' when >> using them together. >> >> (d) The Chart colors: 12 colors used in the new chart module written some >> years ago. AFAIK these were added at that time especially to support the >> user having colors at hand corresponding to the default chart colors. Nice. >> Useful. >> >> (e) 'Nice' Colors: A sub-group from (b). One is fix, it's the mentioned >> 'Blue 9' which is currently the default color for objects and has to be in >> the palette. I personally like (and often use) 'Blue Gray'. These are a >> question of taste, I would reccomend the named ones, but we need to collect >> 'your' favorites here. Keep in mind to keep this number low (probably 4-5) >> and do not forget that the color you like were not choosen freely, but >> *because* you were limited to the offered ones, so it might be a compromize >> you are just used to. >> >> Quite a mix. I compared it with Syphony's palette and there completely >> new colors are used. One interesting aspect are the white/gray/black ones: >> In our current palette these are divided between (a) (black, white and two >> grays) and (b) (the rest, gray 80% .. gray 20%). This is of course because >> the first four grays are technically in the old VGA palette. I more than >> once were mad about finding the correct gray in our palette, because of the >> bad positioning in it. Symphony has all needed grays in one draw as first >> entries in the palette (what I would expect nowadays). >> >> Thus, I propose: >> - Basically use Symphony palette >> - Preserve some nice olors from our old palette, but not more than 4 or >> 5. The default color needs to be preserved (blue 9). I propose to only keep >> 'Blue Gray', but let's see which other colors are favorites here... >> - Add the Pale colors >> - Add the Chart colors >> >> The result is 'hand crafted' in the docs linked above, please have a look >> :-) >> >> Another aspect of the new palette is that it copies from Symphony the use >> of '12-er groups' which look nice when you order the palette in a way that >> 12 colors are in a row, please see the picture. This could be a part of our >> sidepane in progress. >> >> One more hint: This palette offers defaults to the user after AOO is >> newly installed, not more (and not less). It can be changed by the user >> anytime. Colors can be added/deleted by the user. This has no technical >> limitations in the sense that changing the palette may influence existing >> ODF's or other written files. E.g. the chart colors are there to not have >> to look for them, but can be added/removed by the user anytime (they are >> *not* the source for the chart to use them). >> >> Lot of text for some colors. So, tell me what you think about this >> proposed new palette! >> >> Sincerely, >> Armin >> -- >> ALG >> > -- > ALG >