On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Drew Jensen <drewjensen.in...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rob,
>
> Are you referring only to the email on the TDF mailing list - I know which
> one that would be I'm sure, and I drafted but then did not send a reply to
> it.
>
> I ask because I did not see that go any further then the ml, but that
> doesn't mean that it didn't.
>

I learned about these claims via email, but not from the TDF mailing
list.  But I would not be surprised if it originated there.  In any
case, when a TDF Director and Marketing Lead makes such claims, it
carries some weight, and if utterly false the claims should be
rebutted.  IMHO.

-Rob

> Thanks
>
> Drew
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:35:16 -0500
>> Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Donald Whytock <dwhyt...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > >> I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects, saying that the
>> > >> "IBM donation to AOO is pure marketing fluff" and "IBM faked the
>> > >> donation of the Symphony code" and "IBM did not donate anything".
>> > >
>> > > Did they explain how one fakes a donation to ASF?
>> > >
>> >
>> > I assume he is confusing two different things:
>> >
>> > 1) The donation of Symphony, which was done via an SGA (Software Grant
>> > Agreement).  This occurred last year.  This was recorded by the ASF
>> > Secretary and the PMC was notified when this occurred.  So there
>> > should be no doubts here. Symphony was donated to the ASF.
>> >
>> > 2) Publication of Symphony as a code base via an ASF release.  After
>> > discussion the PMC decided not to go down that path.  The preference
>> > was to do a slower merge of Symphony enhancements rather than to
>> > rebase AOO on Symphony.  If we had done the rebase path this would
>> > have required additional work from the project, including IP
>> > Clearance, modifying file headers, etc.
>> >
>> > Maybe the belief was that the "slow merge" was not for real?  It
>> > certainly is not very flashy.  The fixes are very practical, mundane
>> > things, the nuts and bolts of what users most care about,
>> > interoperability, stability, etc.  So we have not boasted loudly about
>> > these improvements.  But maybe it is worth a blog post?
>> >
>> Certainly worth a blog (and elsewhere) mention that "forthcoming AOO 4.0
>> will incorporate many features and fixes from IBM Symphony code donation;
>> this process will continue throughout further AOO releases" or words to
>> that effect. Would it be premature to mention timescale for AOO 4.0 release?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie>
>>

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