Hi,

Kevin's "book birds" use perspective drawing techniques and converge on the 
horizon. They are going somewhere.

The standard gulls are more like two birds in the standard "wingman" formation. 
OpenOffice is your "wingman" to take you where you want to go.

Regards,
Dave

On May 28, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> @Kevin,
> 
> It never occurred to me that those were flying books.  Taking another look, 
> it still doesn't work.  If made more obviously as books, I'm not sure how 
> that will occur as indicative of an office productivity suite.  (I have no 
> idea how birds in flight do that either, but it is probably better to avoid 
> trying for a literal connection.)
> 
> - Dennis
> 
> Looking Closer:
> 
> The first visual distraction for me is the difference in orientation.  The 
> foreground (larger) object is angled differently and it has a very different 
> feel.  I don't know why.  (One might be that your large foreground object 
> seems viewed from above, especially if it is supposed to be a book, whereas 
> in the other forms, it is easier to see them as viewed from below -- I get it 
> is totally an optical illusion that there is a particular viewpoint 
> orientation, but that is how they occur to me on first glance.)
> 
> The only way I can visualize the book notion is that I am seeing an unfolded 
> piece of paper.  If this is two facing pages of an open book, the problem is 
> there is nothing to suggest the rest of the book.
> 
> I think this goes to show that seeing a book at the abstracted level of this 
> symbol is a definite stretch.  
> 
> "Your ideas taking flight" is a great catch-phrase though.  That works with 
> any of them.  In that regard, the symbol Chris used has the advantage of the 
> foreground wing extending beyond the edge of the orb.  I tend to see that as 
> being in front of the orb, although one can also consider that we are seeing 
> them on the outside of a round aperture.  My immediate subjective response is 
> to see the flyers in front of the orb.  I have no idea how consistent that is 
> with the initial perception of others, if there is any consistency at all.
> 
> As far as this kind of imagery goes, the flat symbol is an improvement on the 
> orb in the current logo, which has the appearance of a button or globe 
> standing on a surface.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Grignon [mailto:kevingrignon...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 05:44 AM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: marketing; dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I wanted to share some design rationale for the gull/book pages enhancement 
> in my logo. 
> 
> In my design I wanted to make the "gulls" into flying books. I made them 
> broader and more active. I was going for the whole, "OpenOffice helps give my 
> thoughts and ideas wings", versus "gills at sunset". 
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Kevin 
> 
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> 
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