On 31 July 2013 21:31, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Am 07/31/2013 03:06 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:33 AM, janI<j...@apache.org>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Moving conversation to dev@
>>>
>>>
>>> On 31 July 2013 13:28, Jürgen Schmidt<jogischm...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/31/13 1:07 PM, janI wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on a discussion today on IRC, I would like to draw your attention
>>>>> to the following challenge. henkp is cc because he is the infra person
>>>>> doing the rsync magic.
>>>>>
>>>>> ASF has a policy that incubator/xxx should be removed when the project
>>>>> graduates. We still have our 3.4.1 (and 3.3.0) release stored under
>>>>> incubator.
>>>>>
>>>>> As part of cleaning rsync, infra want to enforce the policy, but of
>>>>> course respect and understand our need to have 3.4.1 available to users
>>>>> (especially because 3.4.1 contains languages not released in 4.0).
>>>>>
>>>>> I see the following possibilities:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) remove openoffice from incubator, but leave version 3.3.0 and 3.4.1
>>>>> (with language packs) on the SF mirror. This is preferred by infra.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 to keep it on SF
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) remove 3.3.0 since its a legacy version, and move 3.4.1 parallel to
>>>>> 4.0. This is however an expensive operation for all mirror, and should
>>>>> only be done if we anticipate patches for 3.4.1
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Removing 3.3 is ok to me but I see demand for keeping 3.4.1. Having it
>>>> besides 4.0 would be natural but needs some work in the download scripts
>>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just for me, do you prefer 1) or 2) ... I personally dont see a big need
>>> to
>>> keep 3.4.1 on our servers.
>>>
>>
>> INHO it is fine to keep 3.4.1 and early on archive.apache.org and SF
>> only, provided Infra is OK with us pointing our website links for the
>> hashes and signatures of 3.4.1 and earlier to archive and not to the
>> dist.  I don't think the bandwidth will be significant for these.
>
>
> I was told that these files must be linked from "www.apache.org/dist/" only
> and always. If we can get now an exception for "archive.apache.org/dist/" -
> hey, it's hosted by Apache, too :-) - this would be good.

www.apache.org/dist/ - current release(s)
archive.apache.org/dist/ - archived releases

See:
http://www.apache.org/dev/mirrors.html#location
http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#when-to-archive

> Marcus
>
>
>
>
>>>> 3) persuade infra to keep incubator for 3.4.1, but limit the footprint
>>>> as much as possible, remove 3.3.0 and put a timelimit up.
>>>>
>>>
>>>> I believe we can manage to move it out of the incubator in some way.
>>>>
>>>>> We are also adviced, that if/when we change our layout infra need to be
>>>>> adviced well in advance. In my opinion we should consider not using
>>>>> externaldist, but have the total release in one folder with subfolders.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well externaldist was not our idea and I copied the files in this
>>>> structure of advice from infra. We should first clarify what's preferred
>>>> here. "externaldist" caused some confusion and extra work on our side as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We can move the discussion to dev@ is nobody objects.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes let's move to dev
>>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> rgds
>>>>> jan I.
>
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