On 11 August 2013 10:05, Larry Gusaas <larry.gus...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2013-08-11 1:27 AM janI wrote:
>
>> On 11 August 2013 00:40, Larry Gusaas <larry.gus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Shouldn't you discuss this on the forum to see what the forum users want?
>>> Previous changes were discussed there, not imposed from outside the
>>> forum.
>>>
>>>  I agree that is should be discussed on the forum, and now that is has
>> been
>> announced on the list I hope it will be discussed.
>>
>
> I haven't seen anyone starting a thread on the forum asking for input
> about changes to the header.


Ok, but does it really matter if the discussion starts here or on the forum
? To me its important that we discuss it, reach consensus and move ahead.

I am f.x. one that are not active on the forum, but still work to make sure
all our services have a common look & feel (and also maintain our servers
to make sure all our users have a good experience). I feel its important
that wiki, forum and www have similar look so users dont get confused, but
it is just my opinion.


>
>
>    But please remember all decisions are made on the mailling list in
>> accordance with the "apache way"
>> therefore we need to discuss it on the list as well.
>>
>
> Did I suggest otherwise?
> Where was the discussion about changing the header before designs were
> uploaded? Here was the original post on this subject:  "I wonder why the
> header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers
> using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use." Is that
> the Apache way?


First of all neither forum header nor wiki header have not been uploaded,
it awaits lazy consensus on this thread. Uploading the headers without
consensus would really not be the apache way. The current set of
suggestions are quite different from the first set, and are of course open
for discussion, but taking imitative and proposing a change, is in my
opinion the apache way.

To be fair the start of the discussion comes from the unstable forum which
we try to stabilize, and while doing do so it is natural that people look
to see what else could/should be changed. I expect other changes when we
upgrade the different software packages (like phpBB itself).

Take this as an opportunity, its the first time in several years, that the
forum is being deeply maintained and undergo changes. Its quite possible
that we cannot implement all ideas (after consensus), but having open BZ
issues makes it possible to make the changes as resources become available.

rgds
jan I.
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Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind
theirs." - Edgard Varese



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