On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:22 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > AFAICT, there is *already* a really good candidate for the > download/other.html page: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds > > The tables in the middle are easy to follow and AFAIK contain all the > required information. > > No Javascript needed for the table itself. > > Can't the script which was used to create that content be tweaked a > bit to create downloads/other.html? >
+1. Especially if this can be done at site-build time rather than as a browser runtime script. Or, since this data changes very slowly, it could be done as a manual script invocation, each time the data file is changed. We do that, for example, to maintain the consults list, with XSLT: http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html This was even localized. -Rob > On 2 September 2013 22:26, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote: >> Am 09/02/2013 10:33 PM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: >> >>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote: >>> >>>> Am 09/02/2013 06:51 PM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: >>>> >>>> It also looks a bit 'dumb' that we dont have a link to others from the >>>>> >>>>> download page within our no script tag: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Of course it doesn't make sense to refer to a page with JS when JS is >>>> disabled in the broeser. That's why there is no link to the webpage. >>>> >>> >>> downloads, need to provide a download link, that is just common sense. >>> There is another problem with othes.html but not offering ANY link, is no >>> solution. >> >> >> Sure, that's the reason why we are discussing how to ensure this for more >> users than now. >> >> Marcus >> >> >> >>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Alexandro Colorado<j...@oooes.org> >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 9/2/13, Andrea Pescetti<pesce...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> In the last few weeks we've seen users unable to see the big >>>>>>> "Download" >>>>>>> button in >>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/<http://www.openoffice.org/download/>due >>>>>>> to broken (but still >>>>>>> used) browsers that failed to parse the JavaScript correctly. And >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/other.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html>cannot >>>>>>> be used as a >>>>>>> fallback due to the same issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The JavaScript in other.html is used only to generate the page >>>>>>> content, >>>>>>> and the result is independent of the user's browser: as Marcus >>>>>>> explained, it is there for convenience in creating the page. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> How are we using the<noscript> tag within others? and which kind of >>>>>> content is it trying to plug? >>>>>> >>>>>> Would it make sense to do the following? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) Add an "All Apache OpenOffice downloads" link in the >>>>>>> right-hand-side >>>>>>> column of >>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/<http://www.openoffice.org/download/>near >>>>>>> the top: this way, we >>>>>>> ensure that browsers with poor JavaScript support still display the >>>>>>> link. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Problaby the quicker solution, still is just a patch instead of just >>>>>> doing good webdev. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) Rename other.html to other_js.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a bad idea, I've seen many alternative clones being >>>>>> unmantained by webmasters. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3) Modify other.html by pasting the actual download table (can be >>>>>>> >>>>>>> retrieved, for example, with Firebug from other_js.html) in its HTML. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This way we add a manual step (step 3) once per release, but we can be >>>>>>> sure that virtually all users can download OpenOffice in all cases >>>>>>> (working JavaScript, no JavaScript, broken JavaScript). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Andrea. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
