On 11/12/13 4:48 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Nov 11, 2013 6:37 AM, "Jürgen Schmidt" <jogischm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/10/13 8:06 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Ricardo Berlasso
>>> <rgb.m...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2013/11/3 Keith N. McKenna <keith.mcke...@comcast.net>
>>>>
>>> Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>>>>> Comparing http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
>>>>>>> and https://translate.apache.org/projects/aoo40/ I see that
>>>>>>> we have: - Two unreleased languages that are now 100%
>>>>>>> translated (Bulgarian and Danish) - One language with only
>>>>>>> about 1000 words left and activity in the last week
>>>>>>> (Norwegian Bokmal) - Three languages with about 4000 words
>>>>>>> left and activity in the last week (Thai, Uighur, Hebrew;
>>>>>>> Indonesian and Icelandic are in the same group, but less
>>>>>>> active)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would it make sense to schedule a "language update" 4.0.1
>>>>>>> release for late November? I mean something like: announce
>>>>>>> a translation deadline on the l10n list, produce SDF files
>>>>>>> for the languages that reach 100% (which of course already
>>>>>>> include Bulgarian and Danish, and hopefully some of the
>>>>>>> other languages listed above), building only those
>>>>>>> languages and releasing an updated source package and
>>>>>>> binaries for those languages.
>>>>>>>
>>> Yes I believe that it would make sense and would add to our
>>> reputation for actively supporting native languages.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed. +1 from my part for a language update to 4.0.1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Ricardo
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> +1
>>>
>>>> I also think this would be a good idea...hopefully our Release
>>>> Manager will comment soon.
>>
>> In general I am always a fan of having further languages available as
>> soon as possible. But we are still in the situation that our builds
>> and releases take some time. We have no Mac build bot and we don't
>> have Linux systems that can build against our currently existing
>> baseline.
> 
> I know we don't have a Mac buildbot but what is meant by the Linux comment.
> The last I saw 32-bit nightly was OK. 64-bit success seems intermittent. Is
> this what you mean?

as far as I know the build bots are based on newer systems (Ubuntu 12.04
for 32 bit and 10.04 for 64bit). We build on an older CentOS 5.10 system
which is comaptible to RedHat Enterprise Linux 5. This ensures that our
builds can be used on more different Linux systems.

Juergen

> 
> All this should be taken into account and even a language
>> update requires some time and we should think careful if we want to do
>> it for 2 languages only.
>>
>> I we can complete at least 5 languages until end of Nov. we can make
>> language update only. Means we will release only this new languages on
>> the AOO401 branch + a new source release. The same as we did for 3.4.1
>> where we released 12 new languages.
>>
>> And this is only a time limiting factor because many other things are
>> to do and we already started thinking about a 4.1 release.
>>
>> But I am open and in the end I won't be the limiting element here even
>> if I ave to do major parts of such a release
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> It would make more snse
>>>>>>> So this would work like we did for 3.4.1 when we added new
>>>>>>> languages. Why not call it 4.0.2? Well, we already
>>>>>>> discussed it, but the main reasons would be: for the
>>>>>>> languages already released in 4.0.1, 4.0.2 would be
>>>>>>> identical (example: 4.0.1 in French would be identical to
>>>>>>> 4.0.2 in French) since all commits in the meantime have
>>>>>>> been done to trunk; a new 4.0.2 release takes a much
>>>>>>> larger effort than a 4.0.1 language update, so it is harder
>>>>>>> to find volunteers and this is worth doing only if we have
>>>>>>> some important bugfixes for 4.0.1 to include (and I don't
>>>>>>> see any at the moment).
>>>>>>>
>>> It would make more sense for it to be 4.0.1 unless there were
>>> critical bug fixes that would justify a 4.0.2. The only potential
>>> glitch that I see is handling the release notes. I have a couple of
>>> ideas that I will lay out in a separate thread if we decide to go
>>> ahead with a language only release.
>>>
>>> Regards Keith
>>>>>>> Regards, Andrea.
>>>
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