Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 05/03/15 15:04, Louis Su�rez-Potts wrote: >> >>> On 05-03-2015, at 06:49, Simon Phipps <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:03 AM, jan i <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On 5 March 2015 at 11:42, Simon Phipps <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dave Barton <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Kay Schenk <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I just updated the PMC FAQ page on the project website. >>>>>> >>>>>> I see this page has now been updated and the names of all the list >>>>>> moderators have been removed. Is there some new (unlinked) location >>>>>> where that information can be found? If not, should we add the >>>> moderator >>>>>> names to the individual list information on the mailing lists page: >>>>>> https://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I also note that the [commit for this change][1] refers to a discussion >>>> of >>>>> the rationale for the change - can anyone point me to the discussion >>>>> please? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Some of that discussion happened (partly wrongly) on private@ >>>> >>>> Basically some of us (including myself) does not want to have our names >>>> published where it is not really needed or beneficial. >>>> >>> >>> Obviously I wasn't party to the private discussion, but that seems an odd >>> decision in a community that's so transparent in its intent an >>> implementation. I suggest the lists of moderators be made available >>> somewhere because: >>> >>> - The identities of the list moderators seem very hard to determine by >>> any other means >>> - This mode of contribution gets little enough recognition as it is, and >>> the people contributing this way should be recognised. >>> >>> Since we have and owner@ to every list, there are no need to publish the >>>> individual names. >>>> >>> >>> There is a private@ list but we still publish the names of the PMC >>> members... >>> >>> S. >> >> I agree with Simon. >> >> -louis >> > > I agree that contributions should be recognized but moderator of mailing > lists is of course a low burner. Keeping the info up-to-date requires > more work and the benefit is really low. > > If somebody want his name listed we can of course do that, I think it is > not important here and real contributors have their stage somewhere else. > > But who knows finding 100 more moderator is potentially easier than > finding 100 new developers and we can shine with 100 new contributors. > If we have a limit per list I step back as moderator ;-) > > Juergen (still smiling)
OK! One last attempt to clarify and resolve a trivial issue, that has become clouded in misunderstanding and mistranslated into some kind of "bike-shedding" subject. It is _NOT_ about anyone WANTING to be recognised, or having their name listed somewhere. It is _NOT_ about limiting the number of moderators and there is no need for any existing moderators to step back. There is _NO_ need to show moderators email addresses, the list owner address works perfectly well. It is _NOT_ important where the information is made available. The one and only thing I suggested is that we have a simple, easy way for any of us to check & ensure that we have adequate list moderator coverage. Maintenance of the information is trivial: 1. A new moderator is authorised and at the same time his name is added to the page. 2. An existing moderator opts-out of the responsibility and at the same time his name is removed from the page. Dave (a bit frustrated, but still smiling) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
