Okay. I think I get the Idea now. I am sorry that I have tried to help
with my poor knowledge.

I will write again when I manage to explain what I mean.

On 08.01.19 22:40, Jim Jagielski wrote:

> It's not really an SDK issue but a minimum target system. Even recent SDKs 
> allow for building for 10.7, BUT (and this is the big but), some frameworks, 
> etc are deprecated when using these newer SDKs (ie: newer Xcodes). Plus, each 
> SDK use a different version of clang, which also factors in. And finally, you 
> have older versions of the C++ lib to worry about (this was a major change 
> with 10.8 -> 10.9 targets)... 
>
> So simply saying "use the latest SDK" implies a lack of understanding of the 
> complexities in building such a complex beast for macOS platforms, esp when 
> one considers that 4.20.x contains updated and upgraded code that breaks 
> things as well and how each OS target version and each SDK and each version 
> of Xcode all mangles together.
>
> And the real issue in this regards is about our complimentary community 
> provided builds not about building it "in general"...
>
>> On Jan 8, 2019, at 11:38 AM, leg...@posteo.de wrote:
>>
>> I am not sure what you mean.
>> We should update to use the latest SDK.
>> According to Apple it is still posible to build for 10.7  with it.
>> Maybe that would be better approach?
>>
>> I think you have also to look into available flags since there is a lot of 
>> change in the last 10 years in compiler terms.
>> See mechtildes post and my older post to build on Arch linux.
>> So you might well run into different issues with the approach. 
>>
>> Maybe also posting the issued might help. Maybe they are not that bad.
>>
>> I am sorry that the mac buildbot isnt ready. I could use some help there.
>> If anyone has time. 
>> We currently need to define the brew commands in order to install all the 
>> tools we need. Then we can try to build. And the result is public. Which 
>> would make it easy for others to check on their work.
>>
>> Am Dienstag, 8. Januar 2019 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> One option we have is that we drop support for macOS 10.7 and older for 
>>> 4.20.x... this MIGHT help.
>>>
>>> I can/will test that assumption.
>>>
>>>> On Jan 8, 2019, at 9:54 AM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've started playing around w/ getting 4.2.0-HEAD to build; as expected, 
>>>> so real issues w/ Ubuntu or CentOS7 but macOS is causing problems, what 
>>>> with the migration to gbuild for various modules and how these migrations 
>>>> constantly break macOS. I'll try to start hammering fixing/working-around 
>>>> these, but my recommendation would be that instead of migrating to gbuild 
>>>> willy-nilly, we only do so on (1) modules that NEED it, due to new 
>>>> versions or (2) are so easy and basic that the risk that it breaks other 
>>>> platforms is pretty much nil.
>>>>
>>>> Does that make sense?
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