Hi Jim,

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:42 PM, Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Up to now, we've held 10.7 as the oldest version of OS X AOO is supported on. 
> Even with 4.2.x this is still the case.
> 
> However, if we allow for 10.9 to be the "oldest", we can help include some 
> capabilities that we can't right now. For example, our support of RTTI and 
> _si_class_type_info is pretty meager on macOS, due to that only being 
> available starting w/ a 10.9 SDK and this impacts "our" full support of UNO.
> 
> So I am wondering if maybe we should, to go along w/ CentOS7 as our base 
> community builds, "upgrade" to 10.9 for our macOS ones.

I agree. We only lose a few Mac hardware versions from around 2007-2008 by 
dropping 10.7 and 10.8 support.

I found a good listing on this page:
https://jimmytechsf.com/what-system-software-can-my-mac-run/

BTW - only one model that supports 10.9 cannot be upgraded to 10.11 (A MacPro 
4,1 (Early 2009))

So, a minimum version of 10.10 is nearly the same as a minimum version of 10.9 
and it is possible to download Yosemite, but Mavericks is unavailable.

Some earlier Macs can be hacked to support 10.7, but it requires either a new 
Intel chip or more memory.

I think that 4.1.8 can be offered anyone who cannot upgrade to 10.9 or better.

> 
> Alternatively, we could produce 2 macOS packages: one for 10.8 and older and 
> one for 10.9 and newer. In fact, I even noticed that the download page still 
> has the *logic* for 2 macOS DMGs to be available...

It’s really hard to keep around a 10.7 machine to test. (At least for me.) All 
of the browsers stopped working properly on the iMac that I was holding back 
on. So, I had to upgrade our iMac8,1 to 10.11 (as far I could go.)

I have an older Mac in storage. Next time I can I’ll retrieve it to see what OS 
X is on it. I think it is 2004 era …

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Thoughts?
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