Small addition. I discussed volumes with Infra. 50k average downloads per day, with 140k peak (aktually I said 300k peak, and 400mb) and the response is it is fine.
The traffic seems to play only a role when we talk about the mirrors. So next to be clear a full switch is not part of the discussion now. Just the move away from discouraging users, to use the site. For a complete move we should look at mirrors and the template extention service, too. And solve both topics first. All the best Peter Am 2. Mai 2021 20:05:15 MESZ schrieb Marcus <[email protected]>: >Am 02.05.21 um 17:01 schrieb Dave Fisher: >> I had a follow up conversation with Infra. >> >> We are discussing just using downloads.a.o without mirrors. We should >just get a sense of the size by switching over either random requests >or choosing a particular language. >> >> So, let’s say we change the de download page to use downloads.a.o! If >all goes well, we switch over the others a few at a time. >> >> Keep in mind downloads only has current versions with older ones on >archives.a.o > >we need a complete re-work of a.o.o/downloads when we want to seriously > >use this website for any downloads. Offering every file with an own >link >is (hopefully !) not what we want. ;-) > >Of course here a step-by-step progress is needed. But at the end the >ASF >dist system has to be strong enough for our download numbers (I've >attached them to the issue). When some non-ASF mirror server can >support >with the load even better. > >Let's see what Infra will say. > >Marcus > > > >>> On May 2, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Peter Kovacs <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> So is this Mirror system Issue a blocker? >>> >>> Infra expects us to say how much TB we will need per year as >Download traffic. >>> >>> Is anyone able to answer this question? I mean by saying a number. >>> >>> If so please add it to the ticket. So the ticket can go to Infra and >they worry about the Mirror system distribution. It is not our job to >do this. >>> >>> >>>> On 02.05.21 14:23, Matthias Seidel wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Dave, >>>> >>>> >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21497?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17309317#comment-17309317 >>>> >>>> That is why I wrote "encourage again". ;-) >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Matthias >>>> >>>>> Am 02.05.21 um 14:18 schrieb DaveB: >>>>> Hi Matthias, >>>>> >>>>> That would be nice, except very few (if any) of the ASF mirrors >>>>> (https://www.apache.org/mirrors/) mirror AOO. Maybe that is >something we >>>>> can work with Intra to fix. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> On 02/05/2021 12:22, Matthias Seidel wrote: >>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>> >>>>>> I would rather encourage to use the ASF mirror system again as an >>>>>> addition to our SourceForge downloads. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Matthias >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 02.05.21 um 12:38 schrieb Peter Kovacs: >>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the past we have discouraged the use of >>>>>>> https://downloads.apache.org/ because of Infra. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I had a discussion with Humbedooh if this is still the case. And >the >>>>>>> discussion outcome is, hat they only need a view days to adjust >in >>>>>>> order to be able to secure the service. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It may be that on peak times the download speed drops, but >traffic or >>>>>>> the amount of downloads is not a topic. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A topic will be to obtain statistics. I have not discussed this >yet. >>>>>>> But the data is not publicly available, and I so far obtained >only a >>>>>>> list from last week, because I figured that some are already >promoting >>>>>>> the link. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (With about 6k of download on friday, 4k on thursday, and 500 on >>>>>>> wednseday. (thursday I figured that some sites announced 4.1.10. >(They >>>>>>> even link the draft release notes :P ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So what do you think? Should we promote the alternate link with >this >>>>>>> release more publicly maybe on Forums and go for a transition to >a >>>>>>> different download policy? > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
