Am 16.07.22 um 15:38 schrieb Carl Marcum:

On 7/15/22 2:52 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:

On 7/15/22 2:04 PM, Marcus wrote:
Am 15.07.22 um 10:47 schrieb Pedro Lino:
On 07/15/2022 2:26 AM WEST Carl Marcum <cmar...@apache.org> wrote:

As it seems the AOO 4.1.13 RC1 vote may pass (hopefully soon ), I'm
working on the announce email and blog post.

Since the .openoffice user profile is not backward compatible with
previous 4.1 versions for stored passwords, should we place a warning
for users to back up up their user profile  in the announce email, blog
post, release notes, etc. or not necessary?

If we do mention it, we have to make perfectly clear that this will only affect users that enabled the "Openoffice dialog" AND have set a "Master password". These are two options that are NOT enabled by default so only advanced users would use both.

That said, for those users, they have to realize that they MUST make a backup before updating IF they intend to downgrade AOO at any point (which is also something common users don't do...)

I hope such a warning is not confusing/worrying for common users...

you have good ideas what the text should contain. Would you like to try to write a paragraph? We all can then see what needs to be added.

My thoughts are using the announcement Blog post and the Release notes and not the emails.

I can draft the paragraph but I don't know all the file paths to the profile. Mainly Mac since I don't have one.

I think it is basically a warning targeted to users whom us a master password.

I'll reply with a draft and hopefully someone can fill that part in for me.

For the blog post I propose adding this text after the second paragraph.

If you reference the 4.1.12 release blog post [1] this would replace the sentence about the dedication to Jörg in 4.1.12.

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It is always a good idea to backup your OpenOffice user profile before an upgrade. It is especially important during this upgrade for users who use the Master Password functionality and may decide to use an older version later. There is a change in the encoding of stored passwords in this 4.1.13 release that may make your user profile unusable for previous versions.
Users can backup their profile by copying these directories:

Linux: /home/<username>/.openoffice
Windows 10: C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice
Earlier Windows ??
MacOS: TBD


thanks for the text. IMHO The priority #1 should be the hint why this time a backup is recommended. Therefore I suggest to switch the order:

1. Backup due to this release
2. Backup is always a good idea.

What do you think about this?

<start>

It is recommended to make a backup of the Apache OpenOffice users profile before installing AOO 4.1.13. It is especially important for users who use the Master Password functionality and may decide to use an older version later. There is a change in the encoding of stored passwords in this 4.1.13 release that may make your user profile unusable for previous versions.

In general, it is always a good idea to do a backup of important and personal data, so we recommend to always backup your OpenOffice user profile before doing an upgrade to a newer release.

Users can backup their profile by copying these directories:

Linux: /home/<username>/.openoffice
Windows 10: C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice
Earlier Windows: \Documents and Settings\<user name>\Application Data\OpenOffice
macOS: /Users/<user name>/Library/Application Support/OpenOffice

More information about the users profile is in the support forum:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426

<end>

Marcus

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