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Hi,
vy.ho wrote:
^^^^^
BTW: For me to regard you as serious you probably should enter a
real name in the appropriate field in your mailer. Thanks.
> Should they fork JBoss because it runs on none-free Java too? If they
This is another case. JBoss is a Java app. It would be better to make it
work with free JDKs (does it?, no idea) but it's still a Java servlet so
it's obvious it needs Java.
Whereas OpenOffice.org is a Office productivity suite which has some
important functionality written in Java (XML filters, ...) and even some core
stuff (Database, ...)?
Why should using a non-free Java which is not available sometimes (see
below) help here?
> want a none-free Java, create one, not OOo. And don't steal Sun's
^^^^^
s/none-//.
And we are not talking about Java itself. We want a free Java. We want a
OOo which works with free Java. What RMS thinks may be different,
though...
> property. Create one, not asking Sun to give it out free.
Ah. With your argument they should close-source OOo, too? Or have never
open-sourced it? Because that was giving most of the StarOffice IP out?
Wow. What a nice argument....
Anyway, there is free java. but Sun does regularily break OpenOffice.org
to not build with free JDKs (by using sun.misc.* for example, which no
free JDK implements - of course not, and is not even recommended for use
by Sun itself).
But I wrote RMS today that gcj/gij *basically* works for building (if you
disable helpcontent and patch a sun.misc.* using place) - not for
runtime, though. Both is necessary for free GNU/Linux distributions.
Debian and Defore for example are *not* allowed to use non-free stuff
for building packages for their main distribution...
And well, Suns/Blackdowns Java is a portability nightmare. There are many
platforms without a suitable Java. What to do with them? Let them in the
cold? Without a Office suite / a integrated databse module / the XML filters?
Regards,
Rene
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