André Schnabel wrote: > >well, I guess matters are a bit more complicated here. From past > >years, it was quite customary to pay travel & accomodation for > >volunteer contributors; in fact the conference submission site > >mentioned as much. > So we seem to have different memories, what was "customary". As I > remember, last years conference was the first one to have a very > generous budget for travel & accomodation. This was explicitly > mentioned by the main sponsor when the application was sent in. The > years before, the reimbursements were much lower and always bound to > "active community members who really need the reimbursements". > But my memory might fail, as I never got full reimbursements for any > of the conferences I attended. > Hi Andre,
nah, your memory seems correct, that's what I remember, too. But I thought the amount was kind of adjusted to the actual need; anyway, was not actually involved in such stuff, so you will know better. > Most of the time I payed the full costs myself. (Maybe this makes > me one of the evil stupid, who find OOo Conferences interesting > enough to go there on their own risk and costs :) ). > Oh, count me in with the stupids, too - though I guess there's likely a difference between normal attendance, and speakers (and CC members, FWIW). ;) > >I guess the ones not being timely in this case were the people > >deciding/announcing on the reimbursements. Travel/accomodation > >usually gets noticeable more expensive even 6 weeks before ... > > > > Agreed - final rules for reimbursements were given very late. But > this does not mean, that you can expect to get reimbursements, as > long as no one told something different. Still I think, it is only > honest to say "I'll join the conference only if I get the > reimbursements". This would help to mak decisions and put some > pressure on the conference team. > Yeah; past years IIRC had this mentioned on the CfP. > There is indeed another problem for the Conference Team: OOoCon > never had any budget assigned form the OOo project. We used to plan > the Conferences as self-sustaining (means every cost related to the > conference needs to be backed by dedicated sponsoring). You might > imagine, that it was harder to find sponsors this year than any > other before. > I definitely believe that. But this also cuts the other way around, means community contributors may be more cautious with spending. > Budgeting is actually a task of the council - so > anybody who is not fine with this, should raise this to the council. > Or - much better - apply for a council seat. You'll get the next > chance some weeks after the Conference ;) > Noted. ;) Cheers, -- Thorsten
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