Am 08.01.2015 um 22:50 schrieb John Hewson <j...@jahewson.com>:

> 
>> On 8 Jan 2015, at 13:03, Tilman Hausherr <thaush...@t-online.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Am 08.01.2015 um 08:01 schrieb Maruan Sahyoun:
>>> Hi All,
>>>> I’d like to bring PDFBOX-2592 to the attention of the dev mailing list.
>>>> 
>>>> A number of users on the mailing list have asked about how to import pages 
>>>> from other PDFs as forms, our current solution is LayerUtility, which is 
>>>> depends on PDFCloneUtility.
>>>> 
>>> I like the idea to simplify importing a page as a form object as although 
>>> it's in place the function is hidden in the LayerUtility (although we have 
>>> a sample now ho to do it). What I propose it to do it in stages
>>> 
>>> a) Have the constructor like PDFormXObject form = new PDFormXObject(page) 
>>> and reuse the existing code internally so we have the API in place for 2.0
>>> b) do the changes to the inner workings at a later stage for 2.1
>>> 
>>> There are two main reasons for that
>>> a) I suspect as you go you will find that there need to be changes to the 
>>> existing COS model with the potential for new regressions
>>> b) a) has the risk of further moving out PDFBox 2.0
>> 
>> Indeed - we're not even finished with the regressions from the last 
>> shuffling. New regressions would be even harder to fix because they can't be 
>> assigned to a specific change.
>> 
>> I have the theory (based on my observations here) that regressions get 
>> harder to solve with time, and that the difficulty is not linear.
>> 
>> And yes, we shouldn't open new "big change" construction sites. This should 
>> be done after 2.0.
>> 
> 
> It’s not a big change though, it’s a tiny change. It’s completely unfair to 
> compare this to something like rendering where we’re trying to figure out 
> edge cases in the PDF spec. We’re talking about a problem which is 
> understandable by reading the first chapter of any introductory book on Java. 
> It’s not rocket science.

it's never unfair to express a concern and look at potential risks. The 
question is not about doing the changes necessary to make it easier to import 
pages, merge documents etc. It has to be done! The question is "Do we have to 
do it now?".


> 
>> 
>> Tilman
>> 
>>> 
>>> IMHO: very good idea and initiative; has to be done; shall be done later
>>> 
>>> BR
>>> 
>>> Maruan
>>> 
>>>> However, the design of the COS API allows for sharing of COS objects 
>>>> between documents (in the same thread). So there’s no need for all the 
>>>> copying and cloning. With only a few minor changes we could get this 
>>>> working robustly. It might also help simplify splitting and merging.
>>>> 
>>>> I like this idea a lot and it’s pretty simple - any thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> -- John
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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