I can also use a hive 0.13.0 SNAPSHOT in PIG-3558, and then switch to
a released version later. Seems that's much easier.

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> That works. I will roll a 0.14.0 release as soon as Hive 0.13.0 released.
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Julien Le Dem <jul...@ledem.net> wrote:
>> I think it would be OK to release Pig 0.14 soon after if you want new 
>> features in.
>> It's not more work to release 0.14 than 0.13.1 and that keeps the semantic 
>> versioning.
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Daniel Dai wrote:
>>
>>> Hive-0.13.0 will be release sometime March AFAIK. If we cannot make
>>> PIG-3558 to Pig 0.13.0, I still want to put in Pig 0.13.1, though it
>>> is a new feature.
>>>
>>> Other than those listed Jiras, there are also several unit
>>> tests/system tests failures (eg, TestHBaseStorage) we need to fix.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Aniket Mokashi <aniket...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Sounds good. Do we know a timeline for Hive-0.13 release? If its not too
>>>> far, we can try to do Pig-0.13 it a few weeks after that.
>>>>
>>>> So far we have following jiras to wrap up before Pig-0.13 release.
>>>> PIG-3591
>>>> PIG-3740
>>>> PIG-3745
>>>> PIG-3347
>>>> PIG-3731
>>>> PIG-3558
>>>>
>>>> Any other? We can start marking jiras with corresponding version numbers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to get PIG-3558 in, which depends on HIVE-0.13.0 release in
>>>>> weeks. Otherwise I am fine with a Pig 0.13.0 release.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can wrap a 0.12.1 release in a couple of weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:38 AM, Gianmarco De Francisci Morales
>>>>> <g...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> +1 on releasing a 0.13 and if somebody feels strongly about releasing a
>>>>>> 0.12.1 that fixes PIG-3492 I am +1 on that too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gianmarco
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13 February 2014 03:08, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I think we agree that we should branch 0.13 at this point, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (and possibly look at releasing an incremental bump to 12 or 10? I'm not
>>>>>>> sure what should be included there but I support the general idea).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Koji Noguchi <knogu...@yahoo-inc.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Releasing 0.13 and 0.10.1 is totally independent in my opinion
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I should have referenced my previous request on including 0.10.1 on
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> top release page.
>>>>>>>>   http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@pig.apache.org/msg20629.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By minor I meant 0.13
>>>>>>>>> 0.10.1 is a bug fix release.
>>>>>>>>> as in Major.Minor.BugFix
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see. Then I should have said,
>>>>>>>>  "but I'd like to request we make BugFix releases more often."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for correcting my mistake.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Koji
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Julien Le Dem <jul...@ledem.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Releasing 0.13 and 0.10.1 is totally independent in my opinion.
>>>>>>>>> It just takes the time of a committer that needs the release to
>>>>> happen
>>>>>>>> to do it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By minor I meant 0.13
>>>>>>>>> 0.10.1 is a bug fix release.
>>>>>>>>> as in Major.Minor.BugFix
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Our Major version is still 0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Koji Noguchi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To add to the discussion, I think we should release more often,
>>>>> based
>>>>>>>> on time elapsed rather than volume of change.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't have preference on the frequency, but I'd like to request
>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> make minor releases more often.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At this moment, stable pig release (to me) is still 0.10.1.
>>>>>>>>>> 0.11.1 and 0.12.0 both have regression bug PIG-3492 that caused
>>>>>>>> multiple production pig scripts in our clusters to fail randomly.
>>>>>>>>>> (unless user is disabling ColumnMapKeyPrune)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If releasing 0.13 means 0.10.1 gets kicked out from the front
>>>>> release
>>>>>>>> list, I'd like to see minor release on 0.11 or 0.12 first.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Koji
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Cheolsoo Park <piaozhe...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1 to 0.13 release. Why not if someone is volunteering?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Julien Le Dem <jul...@ledem.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To add to the discussion, I think we should release more often,
>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> time elapsed rather than volume of change.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The more often we release, the easier it is to release.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also that makes it easier for contributors to use their own
>>>>>>>> contributions
>>>>>>>>>>>> in official releases.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is also probably a good idea to have a clean starting point
>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>> merging the Tez branch
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That said, I think those changes by themselves are enough to
>>>>>>> warrant a
>>>>>>>>>>>> minor release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Julien
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Major updates since we release 12 that are currently in trunk:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - lazy output (don't generate empty part files)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - jar caching optimization
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - automatic local mode for small job (big wall-clock wins for
>>>>>>>> long-tail
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jobs)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - improved support for BigInteger, BigDecimal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - hbase loader improvements
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - debug mode that leaves temp files around for examination (!)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - fixes to a few nasty bugs (PIG-3641)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - pluggable execution engine allowing work like Tez and Spork
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - .. and more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say this justifies a release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Aniket Mokashi <
>>>>>>> aniket...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> List I mentioned is pending tasks before we can make a release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A complete list of contributions can be seen at -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/pig/trunk/CHANGES.txt?view=markup
>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of the things that make it a good candidate for a release-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - PIG-3419 (has several backwards incompatible api changes)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - PIG-2672
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - PIG-3642
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - PIG-3463
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - PIG-3511
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - PIG-3657
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aniket
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Olga Natkovich <
>>>>>>>> onatkov...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just going by the list that Aniket provided, I don't really
>>>>> see
>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a full release. Two mentioned JIRAs are doc updates and one
>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>> bug
>>>>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that was ported into Pig 12.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 3:13 PM, Aniket Mokashi <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aniket...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A good number of improvements and bug fixes have gone into
>>>>> trunk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to know if we can roll out a Pig 0.13 release around
>>>>>>>>>>>> mid-March?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am aware that we are planning to merge tez branch into trunk
>>>>>>>> soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, making a release before tez branch is merged will be
>>>>>>>> good. Any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objections?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Following are few jiras we need to wrap up before 0.13
>>>>> release-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PIG-3591
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PIG-3740
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PIG-3745
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PIG-3347
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PIG-3731
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any other?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aniket
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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