We can't use SNAPSHOT releases as dependencies of our official releases.
They can change and disappear.
Let's use the official release of hive when it's available.

On Feb 13, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Daniel Dai wrote:

> I can also use a hive 0.13.0 SNAPSHOT in PIG-3558, and then switch to
> a released version later. Seems that's much easier.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>> That works. I will roll a 0.14.0 release as soon as Hive 0.13.0 released.
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Julien Le Dem <jul...@ledem.net> wrote:
>>> I think it would be OK to release Pig 0.14 soon after if you want new 
>>> features in.
>>> It's not more work to release 0.14 than 0.13.1 and that keeps the semantic 
>>> versioning.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Daniel Dai wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hive-0.13.0 will be release sometime March AFAIK. If we cannot make
>>>> PIG-3558 to Pig 0.13.0, I still want to put in Pig 0.13.1, though it
>>>> is a new feature.
>>>> 
>>>> Other than those listed Jiras, there are also several unit
>>>> tests/system tests failures (eg, TestHBaseStorage) we need to fix.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Aniket Mokashi <aniket...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Sounds good. Do we know a timeline for Hive-0.13 release? If its not too
>>>>> far, we can try to do Pig-0.13 it a few weeks after that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So far we have following jiras to wrap up before Pig-0.13 release.
>>>>> PIG-3591
>>>>> PIG-3740
>>>>> PIG-3745
>>>>> PIG-3347
>>>>> PIG-3731
>>>>> PIG-3558
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any other? We can start marking jiras with corresponding version numbers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd like to get PIG-3558 in, which depends on HIVE-0.13.0 release in
>>>>>> weeks. Otherwise I am fine with a Pig 0.13.0 release.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can wrap a 0.12.1 release in a couple of weeks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:38 AM, Gianmarco De Francisci Morales
>>>>>> <g...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> +1 on releasing a 0.13 and if somebody feels strongly about releasing a
>>>>>>> 0.12.1 that fixes PIG-3492 I am +1 on that too.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gianmarco
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 13 February 2014 03:08, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So I think we agree that we should branch 0.13 at this point, right?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> (and possibly look at releasing an incremental bump to 12 or 10? I'm 
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> sure what should be included there but I support the general idea).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Koji Noguchi <knogu...@yahoo-inc.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Releasing 0.13 and 0.10.1 is totally independent in my opinion
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I should have referenced my previous request on including 0.10.1 on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> top release page.
>>>>>>>>>  http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@pig.apache.org/msg20629.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> By minor I meant 0.13
>>>>>>>>>> 0.10.1 is a bug fix release.
>>>>>>>>>> as in Major.Minor.BugFix
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I see. Then I should have said,
>>>>>>>>> "but I'd like to request we make BugFix releases more often."
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for correcting my mistake.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Koji
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Julien Le Dem <jul...@ledem.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Releasing 0.13 and 0.10.1 is totally independent in my opinion.
>>>>>>>>>> It just takes the time of a committer that needs the release to
>>>>>> happen
>>>>>>>>> to do it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> By minor I meant 0.13
>>>>>>>>>> 0.10.1 is a bug fix release.
>>>>>>>>>> as in Major.Minor.BugFix
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Our Major version is still 0
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Koji Noguchi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> To add to the discussion, I think we should release more often,
>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>> on time elapsed rather than volume of change.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have preference on the frequency, but I'd like to request
>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> make minor releases more often.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> At this moment, stable pig release (to me) is still 0.10.1.
>>>>>>>>>>> 0.11.1 and 0.12.0 both have regression bug PIG-3492 that caused
>>>>>>>>> multiple production pig scripts in our clusters to fail randomly.
>>>>>>>>>>> (unless user is disabling ColumnMapKeyPrune)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If releasing 0.13 means 0.10.1 gets kicked out from the front
>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>> list, I'd like to see minor release on 0.11 or 0.12 first.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Koji
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Cheolsoo Park <piaozhe...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 to 0.13 release. Why not if someone is volunteering?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Julien Le Dem <jul...@ledem.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To add to the discussion, I think we should release more often,
>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time elapsed rather than volume of change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The more often we release, the easier it is to release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also that makes it easier for contributors to use their own
>>>>>>>>> contributions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in official releases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is also probably a good idea to have a clean starting point
>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>> merging the Tez branch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That said, I think those changes by themselves are enough to
>>>>>>>> warrant a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> minor release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julien
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Major updates since we release 12 that are currently in trunk:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - lazy output (don't generate empty part files)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - jar caching optimization
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - automatic local mode for small job (big wall-clock wins for
>>>>>>>>> long-tail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jobs)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - improved support for BigInteger, BigDecimal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - hbase loader improvements
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - debug mode that leaves temp files around for examination (!)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - fixes to a few nasty bugs (PIG-3641)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - pluggable execution engine allowing work like Tez and Spork
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - .. and more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say this justifies a release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Aniket Mokashi <
>>>>>>>> aniket...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> List I mentioned is pending tasks before we can make a release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A complete list of contributions can be seen at -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/pig/trunk/CHANGES.txt?view=markup
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of the things that make it a good candidate for a release-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - PIG-3419 (has several backwards incompatible api changes)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - PIG-2672
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - PIG-3642
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - PIG-3463
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - PIG-3511
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - PIG-3657
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aniket
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Olga Natkovich <
>>>>>>>>> onatkov...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just going by the list that Aniket provided, I don't really
>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a full release. Two mentioned JIRAs are doc updates and one
>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>> bug
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that was ported into Pig 12.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 3:13 PM, Aniket Mokashi <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aniket...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A good number of improvements and bug fixes have gone into
>>>>>> trunk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to know if we can roll out a Pig 0.13 release around
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mid-March?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am aware that we are planning to merge tez branch into trunk
>>>>>>>>> soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, making a release before tez branch is merged will be
>>>>>>>>> good. Any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objections?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Following are few jiras we need to wrap up before 0.13
>>>>>> release-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PIG-3591
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PIG-3740
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PIG-3745
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PIG-3347
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PIG-3731
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any other?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aniket
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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