Well in that case we‘d actually have to introduce the following:

  *   IsCyclicSubscriptionSupportedForTag
  *   IsChangeOnValueSubscriptionSupportedForTag
  *   IsEventSubscriptionSupportedForTag

And possibly the “TagAddress” counterparts.

We’d definitely be blowing up the API that way and making it more complex to 
use.

Possibly throwing an exception when buiding a request might be a better option.
So you use the isXYZSupported functions for general functionality support and 
catch exceptions later.

Chris

Von: Łukasz Dywicki <l...@code-house.org>
Datum: Freitag, 15. März 2024 um 10:48
An: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
Betreff: Re: S7 types supporting Subscriptions
Thinking of it, maybe it would be better to extend signature of
subscription inquiry to be isSubscriptionSupported(PlcTag) ?
My motivation for this is rather basic - the BACnet stuff which is on
the way will have per-participant subscriptions. Profinet (I suppose) is
same for cyclic/acyclic subscriptions and so on.
This gives driver opportunity to make smarter decision. Obviously for
point to point connection such S7-TCP we can rely on device type
negotiated earlier, *but* spanning further, we could finally let S7-1200
subscriptions only for MODE events.

Cheers,
Łukasz

On 13.03.2024 21:16, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> Changing the title ….
>
> So, I just updated the S7 driver to no longer simply report true on 
> “isSubscriptionSupported()” and it now only reports “true”, if it’s a S7-300 
> or S7-400.
> If there is more, that needs to be enabled in order to support subscriptions 
> on such a device, it would be cool, if we could detect that during the 
> connection process and report accordingly.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Von: Cesar Garcia <cesar.gar...@ceos.com.ve>
> Datum: Mittwoch, 13. März 2024 um 21:12
> An: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
> Betreff: Re: Board report ....
> Hello Chris,
>
> The S7-300/S7-400 devices have an important group of functions for event
> handling. In the process part (PCS7) this is handled intensively.
>
> At the time, all these operations are on the Tag associated with the
> request, so any service type subscription is a subscription to events.
>
> In general the S7-300/S7-400 support;
>
>     - *MODE*: Change of operating state in the controller, change from STOP
>     to RUN and vice versa.
>     - *SYS*: System events, associated with internal events of the
>     controller or events previously parameterized for their indication.
>     - *USR*: Events programmed by the user and that are registered in the
>     internal diagnostic buffer.
>     - *ALM*: Alarm events generated by the user program, ALARM_S, ALARM_8,
>     NOTIFY.
>     - And additionally "*CYC*" cyclic mode transfer.
>
>
> But in general they are all seen as events, hence the inconsistency pointed
> out by Bjorn.
>
> All these events are implemented, of course, they have many points of
> improvement that must be addressed.
>
> I currently do not have a PN or CP-343-1 CPU for testing with S7-300.
>
> As you point out, with Zylk's contribution it can complement the CP-443-1
> for redudance tests (thanks Zylk).
>
> Well, the story is long... I'm going for a good coffee.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> El mié, 13 mar 2024 a las 14:57, Christofer Dutz (<christofer.d...@c-ware.de>)
> escribió:
>
>> Hi Björn,
>>
>> the problem with the subscriptions in S7 are that they do work, but only
>> on S7 300 (I think).
>> I mentioned before on this list, that we should probably do
>> context-sensitive “isXYZSupported” functions.
>> Unfortunately, I haven’t yet had the time to implement them.
>>
>> So, to make it short … in general the S7 protocol doesn’t support
>> subscriptions, except for a small subset of device types.
>> If Cesar could possibly tell me which devices support Subscriptions, I
>> could implement something to make this happen (Shouldn’t be too much work).
>>
>> One day we’ll probably have simulated subscriptions, but admittedly as
>> nobody really seems to be interested in working on core-services like this,
>> it’s probably gonna take a while.
>> In the past I was able to work on PLC4X full time, but as no company
>> (except Zylk) was really willing to pay for any form of development, I had
>> to pick a job that pays the bills.
>> I’m still on it, but doing this in my free time.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Von: Björn Haverland <bjo...@coding-nexus.com>
>> Datum: Mittwoch, 13. März 2024 um 18:52
>> An: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
>> Betreff: Re: Board report ....
>> Hi,
>>
>> as I'm starting to get used to the project I do have some questions,
>> especially regarding the mentioned v1.0.0.
>>
>> I tried to set up a plc4j with the quickstart guide which utilizes the S7
>> protocol.
>>
>> So there are examples, in the example folder as well, which are just not
>> working. (The Subscription for instance) I do understand that the lib
>> hasn't had a Major release yet, but I think it could set people off.
>>
>> I like to suggest to change the docs on that points. I know it is hard to
>> test everything but if a feature isn't implemented a wrong documentation
>> just leads to frustration.
>> Cesar has implemented a working CyclicSubscription, and I think he is
>> going to merge it to the dev branch soon. But still there are other
>> subscription methods shown which won't work, just yet.
>>
>> I'd like to hear your opinion on this.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Bjoern
>>
>>
>>
>> Gesendet von Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2024 12:00:11 PM
>> To: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
>> Subject: Board report ....
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> unfortunately I had almost forgotten to submit the board report after
>> coming back from my little snowboard vacation.
>> I took the liberty of posting the following report. If there are changes
>> you’d like to see, please tell me asap and I can edit it.
>>
>>
>>
>> ## Description:
>> The mission of the Apache PLC4X project is creating a set of libraries for
>> communicating with industrial programmable logic controllers (PLCs) using a
>> variety of protocols but with a shared API.
>>
>> ## Project Status:
>> Current project status: Ongoing with moderate activity
>> Issues for the board: None
>>
>> ## Membership Data:
>> Apache PLC4X was founded 2019-04-17 (5 years ago)
>> There are currently 21 committers and 13 PMC members in this project.
>> The Committer-to-PMC ratio is roughly 3:2.
>>
>> Community changes, past quarter:
>> - No new PMC members. Last addition was César García on 2021-10-01.
>> - No new committers. Last addition was Jinlin Hong on 2022-11-02.
>>
>> ## Project Activity:
>> Version 0.12.0 was released on 2024-02-19
>>
>> The project has been working on closing many issues this quarter.
>> We were able to cut the number of open issues by half. Also did we
>> invest a considerable amount of time for working towards reproducible
>> builds and automating most of the release process. Also did we update
>> the content on the website, especially thanks to a new documentation-
>> generator now the configuration for our drivers is automatically going
>> to be up to date.
>>
>> ## Community Health:
>> We know we haven't invited any new committers for quite some time.
>> This is definitely not due to a high committer bar, but more related
>> to the fact that the people needing Apache PLC4X seem to come from a
>> part of the industry that is completely new to the concept of open-source.
>>
>> Only very few people accept our offer to mentor them to scratching their
>> own itches.
>>
>> Interestingly the project is gaining more and more popularity on the user-
>> side.
>>
>> Activity on the mailing lists seems to have increased slightly (8% - 605
>> emails)
>>
>> The community is looking forward to a community meetup in Frankfurt the
>> weekend after the board meeting. Here we hope to re-ignite some of the
>> community activity and focus on perhaps releasing a 1.0.0 version of
>> PLC4X this year.
>>
>
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