On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Andrew C. Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > There is still an issue we need to resolve. Microsoft signing the CLA-C, > > appropriately clarifying the OSP, or developing a standard for judging > > "conformance" (which should extend to running POI on devices where it is > not > > possible to fully "conform") would satisfy me. > > > > I'm not trying to be intractable here, but POI needs to stay open source. > > I'm still -1 until the issue is resolved. I'm comfortable reverting it > > (given GR's statement w/regards to copyright) once this issue is > > appropriately resolved. > > Given that POI is CURRENTLY open source, how EXACTLY does a document > which grants us (a possibly empty set of) ADDITIONAL rights make it > any less so?
Well? As far as I can tell, a summary of where we are is: 1) All known encumbrances are listed in the NOTICE, LICENSE, and/or README files associated with a POI distribution. Yes, there are encumbrances -- at a minimum, we (the ASF) assert copyright and provide specific conditions under which this code may be licensed. 2) Nobody should treat Microsoft's OSP, by itself, as sufficient for us to treat a potential encumbered contribution as anything else but encumbered. 3) To the best of our knowledge, we know of no specific patents that affect our ability to release POI under the Apache License, Version 2.0. If people know otherwise, we encourage them to step forward. If/when that happens, we'll deal with it. 4) We expect all committers who have signed the ICLA to have understood it in its entirety, including section 7. Agreed? If so, Andrew, do you have reason to believe that a committer is willfully violating section 7 of the ICLA? Do if you know of a specific patent that POI needs to be aware of? I'm merely looking for you to back up your assertion that the contribution is encumbered. - Sam Ruby --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
