Dear Girish,

Thank you for your response and suggestion to extend the use of the
`boolean force` flag for namespaces and tenants.
I understand that the `force` flag is already implemented for deleting
topics, namespaces, and tenants,
and it provides a consistent way to perform these actions.

However, the current goal is to keep the tenant and namespace intact while
cleaning up their contents.
In other words, I want to have a way to remove all topics within a
namespace or all namespaces and topics
within a tenant without actually deleting the namespace or tenant itself.

To achieve this goal, I proposed adding a `clear` command for `namespaces`
and `tenants`.

This approach would allow users to keep the tenant and namespace structures
in place
while cleaning up their contents.
I hope this clarifies my intention, and I would like to hear your thoughts
on this proposal.

Best regards,
Xiangying

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 5:49 PM Girish Sharma <scrapmachi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Xiangying,
> This indeed is a cumbersome task to delete a filled namespace or tenant. We
> face this challenge in our organization where we use the multi-tenancy
> feature of pulsar heavily.
>
> I would like to suggest a different command to do this though.. Similar to
> how you cannot delete a topic without deleting its
> subscribers/producers/consumers, unless we use the `boolean force` flag.
> Why not extend this to namespace and tenant as well and let the force param
> do the cleanup (which your suggested `clear` command would do).
>
> As of today, using force to delete a namespace just returns 405 saying
> broker doesn't allow force delete of namespace containing topics.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 3:07 PM Xiangying Meng <xiangy...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Apache Pulsar Community,
> >
> > I hope this email finds you well.I am writing to suggest a potential
> > improvement to the Pulsar-admin tool,
> >  which I believe could simplify the process of cleaning up tenants and
> > namespaces in Apache Pulsar.
> >
> > Currently, cleaning up all the namespaces and topics within a tenant or
> > cleaning up all the topics within a namespace requires several manual
> > steps,
> > such as listing the namespaces, listing the topics, and then deleting
> each
> > topic individually.
> > This process can be time-consuming and error-prone for users.
> >
> > To address this issue, I propose the addition of a "clear" parameter to
> the
> > Pulsar-admin tool,
> > which would automate the cleanup process for tenants and namespaces.
> Here's
> > a conceptual implementation:
> >
> > 1. To clean up all namespaces and topics within a tenant:
> > ``` bash
> > pulsar-admin tenants clear <tenant-name>
> > ```
> > 2. To clean up all topics within a namespace:
> > ```bash
> > pulsar-admin namespaces clear <tenant-name>/<namespace-name>
> > ```
> >
> > By implementing these new parameters, users would be able to perform
> > cleanup operations more efficiently and with fewer manual steps.
> > I believe this improvement would greatly enhance the user experience when
> > working with Apache Pulsar.
> >
> > I'd like to discuss the feasibility of this suggestion and gather
> feedback
> > from the community.
> > If everyone agrees, I can work on implementing this feature and submit a
> > pull request for review.
> >
> > Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Xiangying
> >
>
>
> --
> Girish Sharma
>

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