How about "truncate" instead of "clear"?

Just wondering - since it is such a dangerous command, how can we help the
user not make an accidental mass deletion?

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 1:12 PM Girish Sharma <scrapmachi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > However, the current goal is to keep the tenant and namespace intact
> while
> > cleaning up their contents.
> Ah, I see now. Yes, in that case a clear command is better. Will this
> command also take into account the value of the broker config
> `forceDeleteNamespaceAllowed` in case someone is clearing the owner tenant?
>
> Regards
>
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 3:39 PM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The proposal sounds really useful, especially for automated testing.
> > +1
> >
> > Enrico
> >
> > Il giorno sab 15 apr 2023 alle ore 12:07 Xiangying Meng
> > <xiangy...@apache.org> ha scritto:
> > >
> > > Dear Girish,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your response and suggestion to extend the use of the
> > > `boolean force` flag for namespaces and tenants.
> > > I understand that the `force` flag is already implemented for deleting
> > > topics, namespaces, and tenants,
> > > and it provides a consistent way to perform these actions.
> > >
> > > However, the current goal is to keep the tenant and namespace intact
> > while
> > > cleaning up their contents.
> > > In other words, I want to have a way to remove all topics within a
> > > namespace or all namespaces and topics
> > > within a tenant without actually deleting the namespace or tenant
> itself.
> > >
> > > To achieve this goal, I proposed adding a `clear` command for
> > `namespaces`
> > > and `tenants`.
> > >
> > > This approach would allow users to keep the tenant and namespace
> > structures
> > > in place
> > > while cleaning up their contents.
> > > I hope this clarifies my intention, and I would like to hear your
> > thoughts
> > > on this proposal.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Xiangying
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 5:49 PM Girish Sharma <scrapmachi...@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Xiangying,
> > > > This indeed is a cumbersome task to delete a filled namespace or
> > tenant. We
> > > > face this challenge in our organization where we use the
> multi-tenancy
> > > > feature of pulsar heavily.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to suggest a different command to do this though..
> > Similar to
> > > > how you cannot delete a topic without deleting its
> > > > subscribers/producers/consumers, unless we use the `boolean force`
> > flag.
> > > > Why not extend this to namespace and tenant as well and let the force
> > param
> > > > do the cleanup (which your suggested `clear` command would do).
> > > >
> > > > As of today, using force to delete a namespace just returns 405
> saying
> > > > broker doesn't allow force delete of namespace containing topics.
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 3:07 PM Xiangying Meng <xiangy...@apache.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Apache Pulsar Community,
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope this email finds you well.I am writing to suggest a
> potential
> > > > > improvement to the Pulsar-admin tool,
> > > > >  which I believe could simplify the process of cleaning up tenants
> > and
> > > > > namespaces in Apache Pulsar.
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently, cleaning up all the namespaces and topics within a
> tenant
> > or
> > > > > cleaning up all the topics within a namespace requires several
> manual
> > > > > steps,
> > > > > such as listing the namespaces, listing the topics, and then
> deleting
> > > > each
> > > > > topic individually.
> > > > > This process can be time-consuming and error-prone for users.
> > > > >
> > > > > To address this issue, I propose the addition of a "clear"
> parameter
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > Pulsar-admin tool,
> > > > > which would automate the cleanup process for tenants and
> namespaces.
> > > > Here's
> > > > > a conceptual implementation:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. To clean up all namespaces and topics within a tenant:
> > > > > ``` bash
> > > > > pulsar-admin tenants clear <tenant-name>
> > > > > ```
> > > > > 2. To clean up all topics within a namespace:
> > > > > ```bash
> > > > > pulsar-admin namespaces clear <tenant-name>/<namespace-name>
> > > > > ```
> > > > >
> > > > > By implementing these new parameters, users would be able to
> perform
> > > > > cleanup operations more efficiently and with fewer manual steps.
> > > > > I believe this improvement would greatly enhance the user
> experience
> > when
> > > > > working with Apache Pulsar.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd like to discuss the feasibility of this suggestion and gather
> > > > feedback
> > > > > from the community.
> > > > > If everyone agrees, I can work on implementing this feature and
> > submit a
> > > > > pull request for review.
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Xiangying
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Girish Sharma
> > > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Girish Sharma
>

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