I would agree. I think that we should NOT add anything about PMC specific 
bylaws in our resolution. I would even go so far as to vote -1 on the 
resolution with that clause included.

> On Aug 31, 2018, at 4:16 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I would like to stay on as well.
> 
> Quick question:
> 
>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Pulsar PMC be and hereby is tasked
>> with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
>> development and increased participation in the Apache Pulsar Project;
>> and be it further
> 
> Does the Pulsar PPMC feel the need to adopt bylaws (it’s not required), or 
> are the Apache defaults acceptable?
> 
> One option is to simply not have bylaws, which means you would simply adhere 
> to [1] and [2], and put any clarifications in a contributors’ guide (which 
> you’ve done).
> 
> -Taylor
> 
> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html 
> <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html>
> [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html <http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html>
> 
>> On Aug 31, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Matteo Merli <mme...@apache.org 
>> <mailto:mme...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have prepared the draft for the graduation resolution using the
>> Whimsy tool (https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/pulsar 
>> <https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/pulsar>).
>> 
>> Maturity model self-assessment is at
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-pulsar/wiki/Apache-Maturity-Model-Assessment-for-Pulsar
>>  
>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-pulsar/wiki/Apache-Maturity-Model-Assessment-for-Pulsar>
>> Contributing to Pulsar page is now available at
>> http://pulsar.incubator.apache.org/contributing/
>> 
>> Notes:
>> 
>> * I'm proposing myself as initial PMC chair -- Please comment if
>> community is onboard with this or propose other persons as well
>> 
>> * This draft includes all existing PPMC members and mentors into the new PMC.
>> 
>>     - For all: please indicate if you want to keep being part of the
>> PMC or if you prefer to be removed.
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------
>> 
>> Establish the Apache Pulsar Project
>> 
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>> related to a highly scalable, low latency messaging platform running on
>> commodity hardware. It provides simple pub-sub and queue semantics over
>> topics, lightweight compute framework, automatic cursor management for
>> subscribers, and cross-datacenter replication.
>> 
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Pulsar Project", be and hereby is
>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Pulsar Project be and hereby is responsible
>> for the creation and maintenance of software related to a highly
>> scalable, low latency messaging platform running on commodity hardware.
>> It provides simple pub-sub and queue semantics over topics, lightweight
>> compute framework, automatic cursor management for subscribers, and
>> cross-datacenter replication; and be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Pulsar" be and
>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Pulsar
>> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Pulsar
>> Project; and be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Pulsar Project:
>> 
>> * Boyang Jerry Peng       <jerryp...@apache.org>
>> * Brad McMillen           <bra...@apache.org>
>> * David Fisher            <w...@apache.org>
>> * Francis Christopher Liu <tof...@apache.org>
>> * Hiroyuki Sakai          <hrsa...@apache.org>
>> * Ivan Brendan Kelly      <iv...@apache.org>
>> * Jai Asher               <j...@apache.org>
>> * Jia Zhai                <zhai...@apache.org>
>> * Jim Jagielski           <j...@apache.org>
>> * Joe Francis             <j...@apache.org>
>> * Ludwig Pummer           <ludw...@apache.org>
>> * Masahiro Sakamoto       <massa...@apache.org>
>> * Masakazu Kitajo         <mas...@apache.org>
>> * Matteo Merli            <mme...@apache.org>
>> * Nozomi Kurihara         <nkuri...@apache.org>
>> * P. Taylor Goetz         <ptgo...@apache.org>
>> * Rajan Dhabalia          <rdhaba...@apache.org>
>> * Sahaya Andrews          <andr...@apache.org>
>> * Sanjeev Kulkarni        <sanjee...@apache.org>
>> * Sebastián Schepens      <sschep...@apache.org>
>> * Siddharth Boobna        <sboo...@apache.org>
>> * Sijie Guo               <si...@apache.org>
>> * Yuki Shiga              <yush...@apache.org>
>> 
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matteo Merli be appointed
>> to the office of Vice President, Apache Pulsar, to serve in accordance
>> with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
>> Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
>> or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>> further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Pulsar PMC be and hereby is tasked
>> with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
>> development and increased participation in the Apache Pulsar Project;
>> and be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Pulsar Project be and hereby is tasked with
>> the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Pulsar
>> podling; and be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>> Pulsar podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>> discharged.
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Matteo Merli
>> <mme...@apache.org>
>> -- 
>> Matteo Merli
>> <mme...@apache.org>
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