Hi -

I’m bringing Taylor’s comment to general@incubator so that we can get consensus 
to get the whimsy tool changed.

Regards,
Dave

> On Sep 2, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> 
> I would agree. I think that we should NOT add anything about PMC specific 
> bylaws in our resolution. I would even go so far as to vote -1 on the 
> resolution with that clause included.
> 
>> On Aug 31, 2018, at 4:16 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I would like to stay on as well.
>> 
>> Quick question:
>> 
>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Pulsar PMC be and hereby is tasked
>>> with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
>>> development and increased participation in the Apache Pulsar Project;
>>> and be it further
>> 
>> Does the Pulsar PPMC feel the need to adopt bylaws (it’s not required), or 
>> are the Apache defaults acceptable?
>> 
>> One option is to simply not have bylaws, which means you would simply adhere 
>> to [1] and [2], and put any clarifications in a contributors’ guide (which 
>> you’ve done).
>> 
>> -Taylor
>> 
>> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html 
>> <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html>
>> [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html <http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html>
>> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Matteo Merli <mme...@apache.org 
>>> <mailto:mme...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have prepared the draft for the graduation resolution using the
>>> Whimsy tool (https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/pulsar 
>>> <https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/pulsar>).
>>> 
>>> Maturity model self-assessment is at
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-pulsar/wiki/Apache-Maturity-Model-Assessment-for-Pulsar
>>>  
>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-pulsar/wiki/Apache-Maturity-Model-Assessment-for-Pulsar>
>>> Contributing to Pulsar page is now available at
>>> http://pulsar.incubator.apache.org/contributing/
>>> 
>>> Notes:
>>> 
>>> * I'm proposing myself as initial PMC chair -- Please comment if
>>> community is onboard with this or propose other persons as well
>>> 
>>> * This draft includes all existing PPMC members and mentors into the new 
>>> PMC.
>>> 
>>>    - For all: please indicate if you want to keep being part of the
>>> PMC or if you prefer to be removed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Establish the Apache Pulsar Project
>>> 
>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>>> related to a highly scalable, low latency messaging platform running on
>>> commodity hardware. It provides simple pub-sub and queue semantics over
>>> topics, lightweight compute framework, automatic cursor management for
>>> subscribers, and cross-datacenter replication.
>>> 
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Pulsar Project", be and hereby is
>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>> 
>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Pulsar Project be and hereby is responsible
>>> for the creation and maintenance of software related to a highly
>>> scalable, low latency messaging platform running on commodity hardware.
>>> It provides simple pub-sub and queue semantics over topics, lightweight
>>> compute framework, automatic cursor management for subscribers, and
>>> cross-datacenter replication; and be it further
>>> 
>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Pulsar" be and
>>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>>> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Pulsar
>>> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>>> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Pulsar
>>> Project; and be it further
>>> 
>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Pulsar Project:
>>> 
>>> * Boyang Jerry Peng       <jerryp...@apache.org>
>>> * Brad McMillen           <bra...@apache.org>
>>> * David Fisher            <w...@apache.org>
>>> * Francis Christopher Liu <tof...@apache.org>
>>> * Hiroyuki Sakai          <hrsa...@apache.org>
>>> * Ivan Brendan Kelly      <iv...@apache.org>
>>> * Jai Asher               <j...@apache.org>
>>> * Jia Zhai                <zhai...@apache.org>
>>> * Jim Jagielski           <j...@apache.org>
>>> * Joe Francis             <j...@apache.org>
>>> * Ludwig Pummer           <ludw...@apache.org>
>>> * Masahiro Sakamoto       <massa...@apache.org>
>>> * Masakazu Kitajo         <mas...@apache.org>
>>> * Matteo Merli            <mme...@apache.org>
>>> * Nozomi Kurihara         <nkuri...@apache.org>
>>> * P. Taylor Goetz         <ptgo...@apache.org>
>>> * Rajan Dhabalia          <rdhaba...@apache.org>
>>> * Sahaya Andrews          <andr...@apache.org>
>>> * Sanjeev Kulkarni        <sanjee...@apache.org>
>>> * Sebastián Schepens      <sschep...@apache.org>
>>> * Siddharth Boobna        <sboo...@apache.org>
>>> * Sijie Guo               <si...@apache.org>
>>> * Yuki Shiga              <yush...@apache.org>
>>> 
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matteo Merli be appointed
>>> to the office of Vice President, Apache Pulsar, to serve in accordance
>>> with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
>>> Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
>>> or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>>> further
>>> 
>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Pulsar PMC be and hereby is tasked
>>> with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
>>> development and increased participation in the Apache Pulsar Project;
>>> and be it further
>>> 
>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Pulsar Project be and hereby is tasked with
>>> the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Pulsar
>>> podling; and be it further
>>> 
>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>>> Pulsar podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>>> discharged.
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Matteo Merli
>>> <mme...@apache.org>
>>> --
>>> Matteo Merli
>>> <mme...@apache.org>
>> 
> 

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