Martin Ritchie wrote:
Whilst I'm not totally against a footer per say the enabling of the
footer without a vote or much discussion on the content is what is
most against the Apache way in my view.
I suggested that we add a footer, I don't have the power to actually
enable it, and I'm not sure how the decision was made.
If the point of the change is to game Google then I would be very
surprised if Google actually farmed mailing lists sites for urls.
Sending few 100,000 emails to a list to gain page rank sounds like
something Google would have already caught on to.
I can't prove it, I have the word of someone who does this
professionally that it makes a significant difference. But the other
thing is that this content is placed in several mailing list archives in
other places where there is no reference at all to our web page. I'd
like to know that any time someone is reading one of our pages, there's
a route from there to qpid.apache.org. And I do suspect it will also
help with page ranking, but I can't prove it to you. Which is generally
true of search engine optimization, proofs are hard to come by.
What I can say is this: The fact that a mailing list has this footer,
and the content of the mailing list is closely related to terms relevant
to the content of the page to which the footer points, is a really good
indicator that the URL in the footer points to something related to
what's being discussed in the mailing list. That's not lost on humans,
and as far as I can tell, it's not lost on Google.
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+1
I'd have the instructions to subscribe or unsubscribe.
For additional commands, e-mail: <list>-h...@qpid.apache.org
How often do people need these additional commands?
As for having the project name and url my quick look through the
mailing lists I'm subscribed to go both ways (for those that have
footers).
Yes, that's my observation as well.
For me it really a burning issue more a waste of my Gmail storage as
Gmail will automatically hide the footer.
It's as big an issue as the email traffic dedicated to it ;->
But I do think it helps people and search engines find us. And that's
something we should want, our web site is not something people easily
stumble on if they are not looking for it.
Jonathan
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