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> The 'our users are developers' thing is true of many (most?) of the
> projects at the ASF, however they still typically have separate user and
> dev lists. I think the real issue here is how we use them rather than
> whether they both exist.



agree.  that's why choice #2 best reflect reality.  since all users are
potential developers, and since we want to grow that group, users should...
users should....


dang.  i want to change my vote.





> 
> Robbie
> 
> On 23 August 2013 15:58, Darryl L. Pierce <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 01:50:12PM +0100, Gordon Sim wrote:
> > > Please indicate your preference:
> > >
> > > 1. Remove the dev list entirely
> >
> > +1 I'm actually inclined towards this.
> >
> > With an application's mailing list you'd want to have one place for
> > users to discuss using the application and another list for the
> > developers who write the code.
> >
> > But with something like Qpid, there's not so clear a separation between
> > developers and users; i.e., users ARE developers and are more directly
> > interested in the implementation details of Qpid, those things that are
> > discussed in the dev list.
> >
> > Except for such things as setting up or configuring the broker, pretty
> > much all traffic concerns development.
> >
> > > 2. Keep the dev list but only for traffic not relevant to users of the
> > code
> > >
> > > 3. Keep dev list for some wider set of traffic (please specify
> > > criteria you believe applies if selecting this option)
> > >
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