It’s a question of priority. Let’s not let the low priority stuff block the 
important stuff. Moving source control is urgent. I haven’t yet heard a reason 
why CI should delay moving source control.

> On May 10, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Jignesh Patel <jipa...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> 
> Dear Julian,
> 
> You do make a good point, but we have a very heavy reliance on the CI and it 
> will certainly help the transition. 
> 
> Since other Apache projects do have a Travis CI, Zuyu has reached out to 
> Roman to see if we can set this up. 
> 
> Agreed about the points that both you and Roman are making — we do need to 
> move fully to ASF soon. Thanks for your patience. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jignesh 
> 
>> On May 9, 2016, at 1:27 AM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 8, 2016, at 8:39 PM, Zuyu Zhang <zzh...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, we need fix QUICKSTEP-2 before transiting to ASF.
>> 
>> I disagree. It is much more important that you use ASF infrastructure for 
>> source control than for CI, and the one does not block the other.
>> 
>> At Calcite it took a long time before we had CI running on ASF 
>> infrastructure. We continued to use Travis-CI, which we’d used before ASF.
>> 
>> As Roman says, it is important for IP hygiene that commits are made directly 
>> to ASF git, and the sooner you switch over the better. I think you can do 
>> that before you transition CI.
>> 
>> Julian
> 

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