Thanks Brian,

Hang in there, I think we can get back on track without fragmenting, I've seen the developers on this project work well together in the past. I do agree GitHub is less work for releases, I'm going to attempt to get access to Apache's git wip repository. My experience has been that much more communication occurs on Apache River mail lists. The traffic I get with my fork on GitHub relates to input validation for deserialization.

Regards,

Peter.


On 5/07/2016 12:49 AM, Bryan Thompson wrote:
I am just not that familiar with Apache policy.  However, river is a real,
functional, deployed in use platform.   I certainly agree that there is
deadlock at this point in terms of the people and process.  However, I am
not sure that an attic is the right place for a well grounded and fielded
technology.  While the community might not be able to move ahead along a
clear roadmap, there is still support from the community for the technology.

Maybe a move to github would help to break things loose?  Open up the
development and release process more?  Right now things are hung up in part
on Apache process. Maybe Apache is just not the right place at this time
for this technology?

Thanks,
Bryan

On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Patricia Shanahan<p...@acm.org>  wrote:

I think it is time to raise on the user list moving River to the attic.

There is no sign of progress on a release. What interest there is in
development seems to be going in different directions. Using portions of
River code in other projects would still be feasible with it in the attic,
but there would be no need for a PMC, and board reports.

Patricia

On 7/4/2016 6:44 AM, Simon IJskes - QCG wrote:
...

But then again, there are a lot of people reading this, and a big part
of them having no interest at all in incompatible improvements, and i
see no other option than leaving them behind, with a jini compatible
maintenance release. This will certainly tear the river community apart,
or at least cause a lot of friction. So when i see only the two of us,
moving in a new direction, i can't help feeling, what is the use of it
all.

G. Simon





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