5.) Shelan, another contributor around 2010 created a mobile weblog view for a blog, as you can see in the upper-right corner here: http://www.nailedtothex.org/roller/kyle/entry/nested-list-element-issue-of1 . The mobile theme doesn't seem to work right today (that blog entry at that link shows the problems with it, the blogger had to make changes basically making it a standard blog anyway, and even with those changes I saw further errors with it.) What Shelan did was very nice circa 2010 (before Bootstrap existed) but might be frowned upon today, I think one is expected to use a responsive theme today when you want to support all types of devices, rather than have (antiquated?) "click here for mobile" and "click here for standard" buttons. Unsure, but we may wish to pull this out of the basic theme once fauxcoly and gaurav are better established.
The mobile theme will switch automatically if you view with a mobile device, the button is there as a preview and example. Use an user agent switcher. I guess mobile first will become the standard, but what I like about the separate theme you can still use your investment in your existing design (desktop) and then a responsive design for the mobile/tablets, where you can target more the mobile devices rather than one fits all design (which tend to be more mobile centric than desktop). Yes more work but for roller the themes are quite simple. Surfing an a mobile? hmm, think apps are the way to go as you get more "lockin" and a much better user experience. ...a whole lot more work and complexity however. On 3 July 2014 02:49, Glen Mazza <glen.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Gaurav, I've been working heavily on the backend and am thankfully > getting to a point where I can look more at the frontend. We may need to > release Roller 5.1 just to get retire the 5.0.x series -- front-end looks > very similar, but back-end is much cleaner and faster to build, lower > maintenance, etc. So Roller 5.1 is at least standing on a good foundation, > even if the UI themes need some work. > > Some of the UI things I'd like to see done (some may get into 5.1, some > may in a subsequent patch release), regardless of who does them, are as > follows: > > 1.) Both the gaurav and fauxcoly themes OOTB say "here's the top 30 tags > for this blog", but that doesn't help a starting blogger who has just one > or two blog entries and next to no tags--the blog looks bad that way. A > blog theme should look good from day one even if the blogger has just a few > blog entries. I'd like to see the tag stuff removed and have it replaced > with either the blogroll, ATOM feeds, or something else. One idea is to > move the top horizontal menu line providing archives, login, buttons to the > side and include categories in the top horizontal line instead. > > 2.) The fauxcoly theme uses YUI (Yahoo User Interface) stored in > webapp/roller-ui/yui, but the YUI is from 2009. I'd like to have it > replaced with the latest release YUI. The YUI we ship with Roller is not > just for fauxcoly, but for any YUI-based custom theme a user may wish to > create (by keeping it in roller-ui/yui a new theme creator doesn't have to > bother importing all the YUI files with his theme.) Also, if the theme can > be tweaked a bit to be responsive while using YUI still that would be good. > > 3.) The gaurav theme of course uses Bootstrap and JQuery. Likewise, > rather than directly incorporate that stuff in the gaurav theme, I'd like > to have it placed under webapp/roller-ui/bootstrap and have the gaurav > theme reference those files from there. That way, again, anyone can come > up with their own Bootstrap-based theme without needing to upload all the > Bootstrap files. > > 4.) Both the gaurav and fauxcoly themes duplicate an icons folder having > all the social media bitmaps for Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, etc. I'd > like to see those icons stored in one place, maybe roller-ui/icons or > /socialmedia or whatever, so themes can reference those icons without > needing to duplicate them into their themes. > > 5.) Shelan, another contributor around 2010 created a mobile weblog view > for a blog, as you can see in the upper-right corner here: > http://www.nailedtothex.org/roller/kyle/entry/nested-list- > element-issue-of1 . The mobile theme doesn't seem to work right today > (that blog entry at that link shows the problems with it, the blogger had > to make changes basically making it a standard blog anyway, and even with > those changes I saw further errors with it.) What Shelan did was very nice > circa 2010 (before Bootstrap existed) but might be frowned upon today, I > think one is expected to use a responsive theme today when you want to > support all types of devices, rather than have (antiquated?) "click here > for mobile" and "click here for standard" buttons. Unsure, but we may wish > to pull this out of the basic theme once fauxcoly and gaurav are better > established. > > 6.) Our website is old-fashioned, perhaps about 50% of Apache websites are > now using Bootstrap and I'd like Roller to be one of them. The stuff that > is on the Roller Wiki would remain there, so that doesn't need converting, > just the several relatively small pages making up roller.apache.org. > > 7.) We eventually should have a sample theme (probably non-responsive as > this is a portal-type page) showing how to display Roller's Planet > functionality (it is very crude here: http://rollerweblogger.org/ > project/page/planet, the CSS isn't working). I haven't looked at this at > all, and am unsure how well the backend still supports it. > > If any of this sounds interesting to you (or any other Roller committer), > just let us know so we're not duplicating effort and feel free to jump into > it! > > Regards, > Glen > > On 06/18/2014 03:18 AM, Gaurav Saini wrote: > >> Hello Glen, >> >> Thanks for this informative reply. I was looking for some suggestions and >> you provided. :) >> >> I am interested in any UI work related to roller. I can handle all the UI >> work inside roller although there might not be as much but if you have any >> issues in JIRA known to you I would love to contribute towards them. >> >> I have been working on AngularJS, nodejs projects from last some time and >> also have vast expirience in CSS mainly how to perfectly use Bootstrap. I >> am focusing my future in client side with nodejs coming in scope we can >> have backend built with javascript. >> >> So, I love to contribute to any client side work (UI) to roller anytime. >> :) >> >> Thanks >> Gaurav >> >> On Sunday 15 June 2014 10:11 PM, Glen Mazza wrote: >> >>> Hi Gaurav, yes, I hope gaurav the theme (and Gaurav the person) gets a >>> lot *more* attention too... :) >>> >>> You are most welcome to submit a proposal for any Apache project, and >>> you don't need anybody's permission to do so. I've never given a >>> presentation at ApacheCon so I wouldn't know much more than what the >>> website would tell you. I'd be cautious though, I'm not certain they will >>> cover your formidable transportation and lodging costs if they accepted >>> your presentation (or may take that into account when judging to accept >>> your proposal, reducing the chances of its acceptance). 'Course, at this >>> early stage in your career, given the amount of time and effort it would >>> take to give a presentation in Europe, it might be better for you to spend >>> that time on gaining more technical know-how anyway (say, by submitting >>> more Roller patches :), as substance is always better than show. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Glen >>> >>> On 06/13/2014 08:22 AM, Gaurav Saini wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Dave and Glen, >>>> >>>> I am really excited and interested in submitting a paper on Apache >>>> Roller. >>>> I have worked on roller and have contributed to roller some months >>>> back. I also have contributed the responsive theme for roller which is >>>> really gaining some attention. >>>> >>>> Glen, might be knowing me and remembering me. I can provide a hands-on >>>> tutorial or an introduction for beginners about Roller. >>>> >>>> Can anyone please guide me how I can go for this ? Is there anything >>>> specific anyone has idea for which I can prepare the paper. This is my >>>> first time and really looking forward for this conference. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Gaurav >>>> >>>> On Friday 13 June 2014 05:29 PM, Dave wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Roller fans, >>>>> >>>>> As you may be aware, ApacheCon will be held this year in Budapest, on >>>>> November 17-23. (See http://apachecon.eu for more info.) >>>>> >>>>> The Call For Papers for that conference is still open, but will be >>>>> closing soon. Now is your chance to tell the world about how you >>>>> use Roller. This could be any level of talk - a deep technical talk, >>>>> a hands-on tutorial, an introduction for beginners, or a case study >>>>> about the awesome stuff you're doing with Roller. >>>>> >>>>> Please consider submitting a proposal, at >>>>> http://events.linuxfoundation.org//events/apachecon-europe/program/cfp >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
