I don’t understand how they work at all. There seems to be some Maven magic 
going on, and I was having trouble figuring it out that last time I looked.

> On Nov 3, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Harbs,
> 
> I haven't used them personally, but I understand how they are working. I
> agree that we should put our effort to have those tests written in AS3
> instead of Java. We don't have to many active people among the committer
> who know Java. Those example which we have can be just starting point - Can
> it be rewritten to AS3 ?
> 
> Piotr
> 
> 2017-11-03 13:04 GMT+01:00 Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com>>:
> 
>> Hi Piotr,
>> 
>> Do you understand how the Selenium tests work and how to write them?
>> 
>> It looks like the tests are written in Java. IMO, ideally, the tests
>> should be written in ActionScript.
>> 
>> Selenium has a Node.js driver and it makes sense that we should be taking
>> advantage of that.
>> 
>> In fact, we can probably have one framework which does non-UI unit testing
>> using Node and UI testing using the node and selenium.
>> 
>> Harbs
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Harbs,
>>> 
>>> Fully agree what you are saying! Sometimes I have found myself difficult
>>> without deeper knowledge how something is working when I check the code.
>>> One thing which I can mention is that we already have Selenium
>> integrated.
>>> If you are going to spend some time on that I would start from the point
>>> [1] and see whether we can use it.
>>> 
>>> As for your coming to US - Wish I could be there!
>>> 
>>> [1]
>>> https://github.com/apache/royale-asjs/tree/develop/examples/examples-
>> integrationtests <https://github.com/apache/royale-asjs/tree/develop/ 
>> <https://github.com/apache/royale-asjs/tree/develop/>
>> examples/examples-integrationtests>
>>> 
>>> Piotr
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2017-11-03 12:19 GMT+01:00 Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com> <mailto:
>> harbs.li...@gmail.com <mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com>>>:
>>> 
>>>> One topic which keeps coming up is better test coverage for Royale.
>>>> 
>>>> I think this is becoming a critical issue for a few reasons:
>>>> 1. As we get close to version 1.0 it’s necessary to have good test
>>>> coverage for confidence of quality and confidence that we don’t
>> introduce
>>>> recessive bugs.
>>>> 2. It’s really hard to accept Github pull requests without examining the
>>>> code VERY well that it does not introduce recessive bugs. CI which runs
>>>> automated tests could give a preliminary test on pull requests to ensure
>>>> that they don’t break anything. If the pull requests do break
>> something, it
>>>> allows the requester to fix the problem with confidence without taking
>>>> others’ time.
>>>> 
>>>> I think we need to break up testing into pieces and figure out a
>> strategy
>>>> to implement automated tests in a way that they are maintainable.
>>>> 
>>>> Some points:
>>>> 1. I think integration into something like Travis would be very helpful.
>>>> 2. I think there’s a Jenkins plugin for building pull requests. Not sure
>>>> how useful it is.[1]
>>>> 3. Josh has created a Node.js-compatible test-runner architecture which
>>>> could be useful for unit tests on parts of the framework which don’t
>> rely
>>>> on browser features. (i.e. models and the like) He mentioned the
>>>> possibility of donating it, and I think that would be a very useful
>> feature.
>>>> 4. For UI and integration tests, there seem to be some pretty cool
>>>> integrations using Selenium.[2][3]
>>>> 5. I think the main testing effort needs to be using JS and something
>> like
>>>> Josh’s testing framework for non-UI pieces and some easy-to-use Selenium
>>>> integration for visual pieces and integration tests.
>>>> 6. We probably also want some API endpoints we can test off of for
>>>> integration testing.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m willing to invest time into this.
>>>> 
>>>> It’s going to be a lot of work building out the tests and I think we
>> need
>>>> a plan for that. My thoughts:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Step one is to make it easy to write meaningful automated tests and
>>>> establish a clear pattern.
>>>> 2. Step two is to start writing tests starting from the
>> most-used/easiest
>>>> to beak pieces and work out from there.
>>>> 3. Once the pattern is established, any new pieces MUST have testing
>>>> coverage.
>>>> 4. When fixing bugs, attention should be paid to adding testing for that
>>>> component.
>>>> 5. When a pull request comes in on a piece which does not have unit
>> test,
>>>> a test must be written before accepting the pull request. The test does
>> not
>>>> need to be written by the requester. Before examining the request, the
>> test
>>>> should be written to pass for expected behavior and fail for the bug
>> that
>>>> the pull request is attempting to fix (assuming the pull request is to
>> fix
>>>> a bug).
>>>> 
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> Harbs
>>>> 
>>>> P.S. I’m thinking of coming to the US in late December/early January. I
>>>> would be interested in getting together for a hacking session with folks
>>>> who are available.
>>>> 
>>>> [1]https://wiki.jenkins.io/display/JENKINS/GitHub+pull+ 
>>>> <https://wiki.jenkins.io/display/JENKINS/GitHub+pull+>
>>>> request+builder+plugin <https://wiki.jenkins.io/ 
>>>> <https://wiki.jenkins.io/> <
>> https://wiki.jenkins.io/ <https://wiki.jenkins.io/>>
>>>> display/JENKINS/GitHub+pull+request+builder+plugin>
>>>> [2]https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/gui-and-headless-browsers/ 
>>>> <https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/gui-and-headless-browsers/> <
>> https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/gui-and-headless-browsers/ 
>> <https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/gui-and-headless-browsers/>> <
>>>> https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/gui-and-headless-browsers/ 
>>>> <https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/gui-and-headless-browsers/> <
>> https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/gui-and-headless-browsers/ 
>> <https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/gui-and-headless-browsers/>>>
>>>> [3]https://saucelabs.com/products/integrations 
>>>> <https://saucelabs.com/products/integrations> <https://saucelabs.com/ 
>>>> <https://saucelabs.com/>
>> products/integrations> <https://saucelabs.com/ <https://saucelabs.com/> 
>> <https://saucelabs.com/ <https://saucelabs.com/>>
>>>> products/integrations>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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