Anyone can copy the examples and publish them.  They just can't be part of
the Apache Royale release or an official piece of Apache Royale source
code.

If we want to spend energy on making them part of the next release, we
just have to bug VP Legal to get his attention.  I can see from other
mailing lists that he's been buried in some big discussions lately so he
may not have had time to spend on this.  All (or most) VP positions at the
ASF are staffed by volunteers, so you can't count on timely responses.

IMO, MDL is not the key to success for Royale so I am not choosing to
spend any time on it.  Bigger fish for me to fry.

My 2 cents,
-Alex

On 2/19/18, 6:52 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
<carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrov...@apache.org> wrote:

>Hi Piotr
>
>my bet is that, as that projects are of no interest for ASF, you can
>upload
>to your GitHub account directly without any word about it.
>
>my 2cnt
>
>2018-02-19 11:48 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>:
>
>> It's been several weeks since w have asked about advice. There is no
>> response. How can we escalate this question higher ?
>>
>> Thanks, Piotr
>>
>> 2018-01-30 19:58 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>:
>>
>> > I created 
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fissues.a
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>> > -Alex
>> >
>> > On 1/30/18, 8:48 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>> >
>> > >I think since release has been done we could raise a JIRA. I will
>>try to
>> > >follow it and see how can I help. Will you raise jira since you have
>> > >started legal discussion ?
>> > >
>> > >Thanks, Piotr
>> > >
>> > >2018-01-29 7:59 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>:
>> > >
>> > >> Yes, filing a JIRA is probably the next step.  When do we want to
>> spend
>> > >> more time on this?
>> > >>
>> > >> -Alex
>> > >>
>> > >> On 1/28/18, 3:37 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >It's been more than a week since Alex asked on legal [1] for
>>advice
>> in
>> > >> >case
>> > >> >of that Examples. No response. What's the next step ? Maybe jira
>>with
>> > >>his
>> > >> >question ?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >[1]
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>> > >> >
>> > >> >Thanks, Piotr
>> > >> >
>> > >> >2018-01-18 12:59 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
>><carlosrov...@apache.org>:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Hi Piotr,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> for me it's ok. My opinion is that example should be accesible
>>but
>> > >> >>outside
>> > >> >> this project for two reasons:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> 1.- Could be important for people currently using MDL library.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> 2.- As I stated, I want to concentrate our energies in new
>>Royale
>> UI
>> > >>Set
>> > >> >> that eventually has an MDL theme. So maybe this change will
>> encourage
>> > >> >>us to
>> > >> >> think that is more important to invest in our own set that
>>continue
>> > >> >>working
>> > >> >> in a library that is based on an external set that we don't
>>control
>> > >>(and
>> > >> >> that's deprecated too in favor of material components by google)
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> So if you want to host it is ok for me, if you do, I'll do
>>nothing
>> > >>since
>> > >> >> it's better to have only one repo for both samples, so people
>> doesn't
>> > >> >>get
>> > >> >> confused
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> I think we need to wait for legal decisions about this
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> thanks!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Carlos
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> 2018-01-18 12:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki
>> > >><piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > Hi Carlos,
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > I don't mind if you do this.
>> > >> >> > I will personally for sure add those examples to my own repo
>>as I
>> > >> >>stated
>> > >> >> in
>> > >> >> > the RC thread - IF Legal won't allow as to use it. By won't
>> allow I
>> > >> >>mean
>> > >> >> > the situation where we will have to do some magic to have that
>> > >> >>example.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Legal discussion is in progress, so I would wait once it will
>>be
>> > >> >> finished.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Thanks, Piotr
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > 2018-01-18 12:39 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
>> carlosrov...@apache.org
>> > >:
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > > Hi,
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > > separating MDL examples problem from release so we can get
>>that
>> > >>done
>> > >> >> soon
>> > >> >> > > with less noise.
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > > I want to ask here if it would be ok to upload both
>>conflictive
>> > >> >> examples
>> > >> >> > to
>> > >> >> > > my own github account so people interested can access it.
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > > Let me know in order to proceed.
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > > --
>> > >> >> > > Carlos Rovira
>> > >> >> > >
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>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > --
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Piotr Zarzycki
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Patreon:
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>> > >> >> Carlos Rovira
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>> > >> >--
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Piotr Zarzycki
>> > >> >
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