@Dave, I agree that you could interpret Carlos's words the way you did, but I also think it is possible that Carlos was referring that the two MDL examples we are discussing aren't as important as some other things on VP Legal's to-do list, which is fair and probably true and why I haven't pinged VP Legal.
@Piotr, As Dave says, the way to escalate is to add a comment to the JIRA issue or ask politely on legal-discuss. Again, how important is it? My 2 cents, -Alex On 2/19/18, 8:23 AM, "Dave Fisher" <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: >Carlos, > >Please stop with the meme that the ASF doesn’t care about projects. It is >not helpful and it is not true. > >There are hundreds of projects. I suggested that you politely query on >legal-discuss@. > >Regards, >Dave > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 19, 2018, at 6:52 AM, Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org> >>wrote: >> >> Hi Piotr >> >> my bet is that, as that projects are of no interest for ASF, you can >>upload >> to your GitHub account directly without any word about it. >> >> my 2cnt >> >> 2018-02-19 11:48 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>: >> >>> It's been several weeks since w have asked about advice. There is no >>> response. How can we escalate this question higher ? >>> >>> Thanks, Piotr >>> >>> 2018-01-30 19:58 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>: >>> >>>> I created >>>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fissues >>>>.apache.org%2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FLEGAL-363&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.c >>>>om%7C38e5360cf20847b34cd508d577b572dd%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee >>>>1%7C0%7C0%7C636546543554938163&sdata=cDHQDyV2kJw53r7ZQKODy3Itqx2bjlleb6 >>>>f28MJeDgE%3D&reserved=0 >>>> >>>> -Alex >>>> >>>>> On 1/30/18, 8:48 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think since release has been done we could raise a JIRA. I will >>>>>try to >>>>> follow it and see how can I help. Will you raise jira since you have >>>>> started legal discussion ? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, Piotr >>>>> >>>>> 2018-01-29 7:59 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, filing a JIRA is probably the next step. When do we want to >>> spend >>>>>> more time on this? >>>>>> >>>>>> -Alex >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/28/18, 3:37 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It's been more than a week since Alex asked on legal [1] for advice >>> in >>>>>>> case >>>>>>> of that Examples. No response. What's the next step ? Maybe jira >>>>>>>with >>>>>> his >>>>>>> question ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >>>>>> https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2F >>>>>>> s5Zp1y&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com% >>>> 7C4d3f223be1764199838708d56643 >>>>>> 928 >>>>>>> c%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% >>>>>> 7C636527362778153010&sdata=Ms >>>>>>> 5LmB%2F%2FyotheduBEC2yNYACGTZ%2Bhwenw2CwZj6sUU8%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:59 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Piotr, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for me it's ok. My opinion is that example should be accesible but >>>>>>>> outside >>>>>>>> this project for two reasons: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1.- Could be important for people currently using MDL library. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2.- As I stated, I want to concentrate our energies in new Royale >>> UI >>>>>> Set >>>>>>>> that eventually has an MDL theme. So maybe this change will >>> encourage >>>>>>>> us to >>>>>>>> think that is more important to invest in our own set that >>>>>>>>continue >>>>>>>> working >>>>>>>> in a library that is based on an external set that we don't >>>>>>>>control >>>>>> (and >>>>>>>> that's deprecated too in favor of material components by google) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So if you want to host it is ok for me, if you do, I'll do nothing >>>>>> since >>>>>>>> it's better to have only one repo for both samples, so people >>> doesn't >>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>> confused >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think we need to wait for legal decisions about this >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki >>>>>> <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't mind if you do this. >>>>>>>>> I will personally for sure add those examples to my own repo as I >>>>>>>> stated >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> the RC thread - IF Legal won't allow as to use it. By won't >>> allow I >>>>>>>> mean >>>>>>>>> the situation where we will have to do some magic to have that >>>>>>>> example. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Legal discussion is in progress, so I would wait once it will be >>>>>>>> finished. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-18 12:39 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira < >>> carlosrov...@apache.org >>>>> : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> separating MDL examples problem from release so we can get that >>>>>> done >>>>>>>> soon >>>>>>>>>> with less noise. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I want to ask here if it would be ok to upload both conflictive >>>>>>>> examples >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> my own github account so people interested can access it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Let me know in order to proceed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >>>>>> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me% >>>>>>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com% >>>>>> 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