Hi Alex,

the compiler params I reported was not right, were from asconfig.json, but
since I'm using maven I saw there was not setup anything, so I setup to :

<additionalCompilerOptions>
-source-map=true;-js-dynamic-access-unknown-members=true</
additionalCompilerOptions>

And seems the output is still the same

[Error] TypeError: undefined is not an object (evaluating 'a.length')
hz (App.js:998:141)
Yy (App.js:997:181)
rm (App.js:971:266)
tr (App.js:969:323)
pq (App.js:239:887)
R (App.js:166:1223)
W (App.js:511:1288)
pw (App.js:642:796)
Gz (App.js:1045:726)
create (App.js:908:164)
start (App.js:909:229)
Código global (index.html:13)

Now, I'll try to go back in time to a previous commit where it works and
compare with this output

I'll get back with results

Carlos






El mar., 16 oct. 2018 a las 23:44, Alex Harui (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
escribió:

> Ok. Let us know what you find out.  I'm curious why you are not using
> -js-dynamic-access.  I thought that was at least a workaround.
>
> -Alex
>
> On 10/16/18, 2:36 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <carlosrov...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>     Hi Alex,
>
>     I'm starting with our simple MXRoyale RO text example and our Java
> sample.
>     I just pushed a commit to easy change between the old example and the
> new
>     MX RO test case, and enable RELEASE mode. When doing so and running it
>     doesn't work. this is the output
>
>     [Error] TypeError: undefined is not an object (evaluating 'a.length')
>     hz (App.js:998:141)
>     Yy (App.js:997:181)
>     rm (App.js:971:266)
>     tr (App.js:969:323)
>     pq (App.js:239:887)
>     R (App.js:166:1223)
>     W (App.js:511:1288)
>     pw (App.js:642:796)
>     Gz (App.js:1045:726)
>     create (App.js:908:164)
>     start (App.js:909:229)
>     Código global (index.html:13)
>
>     The additional compiler options are:
>
>     "additionalOptions": "-remove-circulars
>     -js-output-optimization=skipAsCoercions",
>
>     I must to close for today, but I think it will be more easy to debug
> from
>     this example than from my real world app that has many other things
> bundled.
>
>     Thanks
>
>
>     El mar., 16 oct. 2018 a las 18:49, Alex Harui
> (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>     escribió:
>
>     > Hi Carlos,
>     >
>     > Are you saying you can see that the response from the server was
> received
>     > by XHR in the browser?
>     >
>     > I can't think of anything that I pushed yesterday that would affect
>     > response handling.  IMO, the changes I made affected the call to
> send(),
>     > but not the response handling.  The other change would affect what
> MXML
>     > elements were created.  I guess you'll just have to debug into it.
>     >
>     > If it helps, there is a -skip-transpile option that is relatively
>     > untested, but causes the compiler to skip over any transpilation and
> just
>     > run the Google Closure Compiler on the js-debug folder.  This should
> allow
>     > you to add trace statements (actually console.out) to the .JS files
> in the
>     > js-debug folder and help you debug.  If you are only modifying
> framework
>     > files and not the application files, you don't even need
> -skip-transpile,
>     > since the framework JS files from the SWC that are in js-debug are
> not
>     > overwritten if they already exist.
>     >
>     > You could also revert back until you get a version that works, or
> compare
>     > the current js-debug against working js-debug, if you still have a
> working
>     > copy somewhere.
>     >
>     > -Alex
>     >
>     > On 10/16/18, 3:57 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <carlosrov...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi Alex
>     >
>     >     It seems that latest changes makes MX RO not work in js-release
> mode.
>     >     If you remember I could by-pass this problem setting up
>     >     -js-dynamic-access-unknown-members=true
>     >     compiling my Application, but now testing js-release it's not
> working
>     > at
>     >     all, since we are in release no traces are shown
>     >     calling the operation in the backend just fails silenty.
>     >
>     >     I only can say that call is done since I can see traces on my
> java
>     > server,
>     >     and enabling XHR in browser I can see the request is received
> but in
>     > Royale
>     >     nothing happens. I think this in an important issue (in the end
> it
>     > will be
>     >     blocking for me to go to production), do you know of something
> done in
>     > the
>     >     latest changes that could make this fail now?
>     >
>     >     Thanks
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     El lun., 15 oct. 2018 a las 21:17, Carlos Rovira (<
>     > carlosrov...@apache.org>)
>     >     escribió:
>     >
>     >     > Hi Alex,
>     >     > with your latest fixes all is working ok :)
>     >     > thanks!
>     >     >
>     >     > El lun., 15 oct. 2018 a las 20:12, Alex Harui
>     > (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>     >     > escribió:
>     >     >
>     >     >> Either syntax should work.  I just pushed changes to
>     > AbstractService that
>     >     >> got service.echo() to work.
>     >     >>
>     >     >> -Alex
>     >     >>
>     >     >> On 10/15/18, 10:51 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <
> carlosrov...@apache.org>
>     > wrote:
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     Hi Alex,
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     one thing I not understand is that this:
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     (service.echo as Operation).send();
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     should be
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     service.echo()
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     I think we're trying to remove "send()" and call directly
>     > "echo()"
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     I can go to your latest commits in both compiler and
> framework
>     > and
>     >     >> try, but
>     >     >>     don't understand the purpose, since calling with send()
> was
>     > what we
>     >     >> had,
>     >     >>     right?
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     Or maybe I'm missing something?
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     thanks
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     Carlos
>     >     >>
>     >     >>
>     >     >>
>     >     >>
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     El lun., 15 oct. 2018 a las 19:15, Alex Harui
>     >     >> (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>     >     >>     escribió:
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     > About 10 hours ago, after I cast the call to send in the
>     > example to
>     >     >> be
>     >     >>     > (service.echo as Operation).send() , it worked for me.
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     > I see you have made several changes to the example
> since.  Go
>     > back
>     >     >> to
>     >     >>     > where the example was about 10 hours ago, make that one
>     > change to
>     >     >>     > service.echo.send() and it should work.  If other
> things are
>     > not
>     >     >> working, I
>     >     >>     > will look into them later.
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     > -Alex
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     > On 10/15/18, 10:11 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <
>     > carlosrov...@apache.org>
>     >     >> wrote:
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >     Hi Alex,
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >     El lun., 15 oct. 2018 a las 18:54, Alex Harui
>     >     >>     > (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>     >     >>     >     escribió:
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >     > There may be a couple of things affecting you.
> One is
>     > that
>     >     >> in the
>     >     >>     > bug you
>     >     >>     >     > reported, it looks like only the first RO is
> created
>     > and the
>     >     >> others
>     >     >>     > are not.
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >     I 'm pretty sure the bug about mx:method is not
> present
>     > since I
>     >     >> test
>     >     >>     > in my
>     >     >>     >     real project and in the example in our repo. In the
> first
>     > one I
>     >     >> don't
>     >     >>     > have
>     >     >>     >     any mx:method and in the second I comment to test.
> Maybe
>     > we
>     >     >> should
>     >     >>     > comment
>     >     >>     >     mx:method section in the example for now.
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     > Second, if you notice in the example, you'll see
> things
>     > like
>     >     >>     > (service.echo
>     >     >>     >     > as Operation).lastResult.  After adding support
> for
>     >     >> callProperty,
>     >     >>     > the calls
>     >     >>     >     > now have to change to be either (service.echo as
>     >     >> Operation).send() or
>     >     >>     >     > service.echo().  The current syntax in the repo:
>     >     >> service.echo.send()
>     >     >>     > will
>     >     >>     >     > result in an error because the compiler cannot
> know if
>     > the
>     >     >> echo
>     >     >>     > property on
>     >     >>     >     > service is also a proxy or not.  The compiler
> currently
>     >     >> guesses
>     >     >>     > "yes" to
>     >     >>     >     > make it easier for folks who have existing nested
>     > ObjectProxy
>     >     >> data
>     >     >>     > sets.
>     >     >>     >     > So, Royale developers will have to do more
> "casting"
>     > with
>     >     >> "as" than
>     >     >>     > in
>     >     >>     >     > Flash.
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >     check the example since I change already to the new
>     > syntax to
>     >     >> help you
>     >     >>     > try
>     >     >>     >     it. There's no "send()" anymore in the example in
> our
>     > repo.
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     > In Flash, the difference between proxy access and
>     > regular
>     >     >> property
>     >     >>     > access
>     >     >>     >     > is handled in the runtime.  The JS runtimes do
> not do
>     > this.
>     >     >> The
>     >     >>     > compiler
>     >     >>     >     > could generate code that tests the class at
> runtime,
>     > but I
>     >     >> think
>     >     >>     > that will
>     >     >>     >     > be too slow.
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     > Specific to RemoteObject, it might be possible to
>     > declare the
>     >     >> JS
>     >     >>     >     > RemoteObject to not be a Proxy and just Dynamic
> and
>     > have the
>     >     >>     > constructor
>     >     >>     >     > and getOperation call Object.defineProperty, but
> that
>     > is not a
>     >     >>     > general case
>     >     >>     >     > solution for Proxy.
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >     Hi Alex, that's for me a bit far from my knowledge.
> I'm
>     > sure
>     >     >> whatever
>     >     >>     > you
>     >     >>     >     get would be the best solution.
>     >     >>     >     Currently mx:RO is broken and I'm working with the
> repo
>     > just
>     >     >> before the
>     >     >>     >     change localy to advance, hope you could take a
> look and
>     > see if
>     >     >> you
>     >     >>     > can fix
>     >     >>     >     the issue.
>     >     >>     >     If not, probably is better to comment the changes
> in the
>     >     >> compiler (and
>     >     >>     >     maybe in the framework?) to make it work again
> until we
>     > know
>     >     >> how to
>     >     >>     > fix it.
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >     One thing I could test today (not related) in the
>     > meanwhile is
>     >     >> if mx:RO
>     >     >>     >     works with small messages on. The response is not, I
>     > think that
>     >     >> is the
>     >     >>     > AMF
>     >     >>     >     serialization-deserialization. But I think this is
> not
>     > crucial,
>     >     >> just
>     >     >>     >     disabling it could be ok for now for most of folks
> out
>     > there
>     >     >> (just
>     >     >>     > knowing
>     >     >>     >     that they need to configure that to false).
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >     Thanks
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >     Carlos
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     > My 2 cents,
>     >     >>     >     > -Alex
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     > On 10/15/18, 4:51 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <
>     >     >> carlosrov...@apache.org>
>     >     >>     > wrote:
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     Hi Alex,
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     I added to the RO test example the
> CompressedRO
>     > test case
>     >     >>     > commented to
>     >     >>     >     > help
>     >     >>     >     >     you find the problem.
>     >     >>     >     >     I couldn't test like in net RO since now the
> entire
>     >     >> example is
>     >     >>     >     > failing, but
>     >     >>     >     >     once the callProperty works for a normal case
>     > should help
>     >     >> us to
>     >     >>     > check
>     >     >>     >     > if
>     >     >>     >     >     the rest of RO works since it uses
>     >     >> "convertParametersHandler"
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     I'll revert localy this changes in order to
> advance
>     > in my
>     >     >> real
>     >     >>     > world
>     >     >>     >     > app in
>     >     >>     >     >     the mean while
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     thanks
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     El lun., 15 oct. 2018 a las 13:40, Carlos
> Rovira (<
>     >     >>     >     > carlosrov...@apache.org>)
>     >     >>     >     >     escribió:
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     > Hi Alex,
>     >     >>     >     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     > I found that even if I remove completely
>     >     >>     > CompressedRemoteObject and
>     >     >>     >     > use
>     >     >>     >     >     > only normal mx:RemoteObject the error shows:
>     >     >>     >     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     > [Error] TypeError: undefined is not an
> object
>     >     >> (evaluating
>     >     >>     >     >     >
> 'this.remoteObject.convertParametersHandler')
>     >     >>     >     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     > El lun., 15 oct. 2018 a las 13:00, Carlos
> Rovira
>     > (<
>     >     >>     >     > carlosrov...@apache.org>)
>     >     >>     >     >     > escribió:
>     >     >>     >     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >> Hi Alex,
>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>     >     >>     >     >     >> I'm finding a problem with callProperty.
> I'm
>     > using a
>     >     >>     >     >     >> CompressedRemoteObjeect that uses two
> hooks in
>     >     >> RemoteObject
>     >     >>     > API
>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>     >     >>     >     >     >> public var
> convertParametersHandler:Function;
>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>     >     >>     >     >     >> and
>     >     >>     >     >     >> public var convertResultHandler:Function;
>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>     >     >>     >     >     >> this makes the call fail with
>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>     >     >>     >     >     >> [Error] TypeError: undefined is not an
> object
>     >     >> (evaluating
>     >     >>     >     >     >>
> 'this.remoteObject.convertParametersHandler')
>     >     >>     >     >     >> send (Operation.js:109)
>     >     >>     >     >     >> callProperty (AbstractService.js:147:111)
>     >     >>     >     >     >> dologin (LoginForm.js:181)
>     >     >>     >     >     >> $EH1 (LoginForm.js:226)
>     >     >>     >     >     >> (función anónima)
>     >     >>     >     >     >> fireListener (events.js:744)
>     >     >>     >     >     >> fireListenerOverride
> (HTMLElementWrapper.js:61)
>     >     >>     >     >     >> handleBrowserEvent_ (events.js:870)
>     >     >>     >     >     >> (función anónima) (events.js:289)
>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>     >     >>     >     >     >> So I guess the proxy is trying to proxy
> all even
>     > its
>     >     >> own
>     >     >>     > member
>     >     >>     >     > functions
>     >     >>     >     >     >> that should not be affected, makes this
> sense?
>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>     >     >>     >     >     >> thanks
>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>     >     >>     >     >     >> El lun., 15 oct. 2018 a las 7:15, Alex
> Harui
>     >     >>     >     > (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>     >     >>     >     >     >> escribió:
>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> I pushed changes to the compiler and
> framework
>     > to try
>     >     >> to get
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> callProperty to work.  I don't have a
> test case
>     > but
>     >     >> give it
>     >     >>     > a try
>     >     >>     >     > and see
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> what happens.
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> If you compare the size of the output
> with and
>     > without
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> -js-dynamic-access, you can see the
> theoretical
>     >     >> savings of
>     >     >>     > not
>     >     >>     >     > using that
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> option.  If that savings might matter,
> then it
>     > might
>     >     >> be worth
>     >     >>     >     > spending some
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> time on fixing up the issues that
>     > -js-dynamic-access
>     >     >> "works
>     >     >>     >     > around".  But
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> keep in mind that there probably isn't
> any way
>     > to
>     >     >> grab all
>     >     >>     > of the
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> theoretical savings.  What we don’t know
> yet is
>     > where
>     >     >> you'll
>     >     >>     >     > actually end
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> up.  It might even be true that
>     > -js-dynamic-access is
>     >     >> more
>     >     >>     > optimal.
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> -Alex
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> On 10/14/18, 3:02 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <
>     >     >>     > carlosrov...@apache.org>
>     >     >>     >     > wrote:
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     Hi Alex
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     El dom., 14 oct. 2018 a las 23:48,
> Alex
>     > Harui
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     escribió:
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > I got the resources working so I
> will
>     > look into
>     >     >>     >     > Proxy.callProperty.
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     That's cool, I'm closing for today, I
> can
>     > try in
>     >     >> some
>     >     >>     > hours if
>     >     >>     >     > you
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> upload
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     some changes. Thanks
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > The issue with js-dynamic-access
> isn't
>     > about MX
>     >     >>     > RemoteObject
>     >     >>     >     > vs
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> Basic
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > RemoteObject, it is whether, if we
> fixed
>     > places
>     >     >> in any
>     >     >>     > of
>     >     >>     >     > the code
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> where
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > minification breaks things, what the
>     >     >> size/performance
>     >     >>     >     > trade-off
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> would be.
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > Some variable names would be
> longer, but
>     > some
>     >     >> other
>     >     >>     > code
>     >     >>     >     > might be
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> more
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > verbose as public vars are
> converted into
>     >     >>     > getter/setters and
>     >     >>     >     > have
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> function
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > call overhead.  I guess we'll find
> out
>     > when we
>     >     >> get
>     >     >>     > someone's
>     >     >>     >     > app
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> to the
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > point where they are ready to get
> the
>     > production
>     >     >>     > version to
>     >     >>     >     > run.
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     Well, I'll need to have my app in
>     > production by
>     >     >> the
>     >     >>     > end/start
>     >     >>     >     > of the
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> year,
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     so we'll can check this with mine.
> For now
>     > it
>     >     >> seems I
>     >     >>     > need to
>     >     >>     >     > left
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> this
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     configuration or release version can
> pass
>     > the
>     >     >> login (the
>     >     >>     > mx RO
>     >     >>     >     > call
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> to the
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     server)
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > -Alex
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > On 10/14/18, 2:23 PM, "Carlos
> Rovira" <
>     >     >>     >     > carlosrov...@apache.org>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> wrote:
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     Hi Alex,
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     El dom., 14 oct. 2018 a las
> 18:32,
>     > Alex
>     >     >> Harui
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     escribió:
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > Hi Carlos,
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > JS proxy doesn't support
>     > callProperty
>     >     >> yet.  Feel
>     >     >>     > free
>     >     >>     >     > to add
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> it, or
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > I will
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > after I finish up
> ResourceManager.
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     JS proxy is
> mx.utlis.ObjectProxy or
>     > you
>     >     >> mean maybe
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> AbstractService
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     callProperty?
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     I could take a look, but no
> promises
>     > since
>     >     >> I don't
>     >     >>     > know
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> exactly how
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > that
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     works. A little of guidance here
>     > could me
>     >     >> make get
>     >     >>     > this
>     >     >>     >     > done.
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > I don't doubt that
> minification
>     > breaks
>     >     >> lots of
>     >     >>     > things
>     >     >>     >     > that
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > js-dynamic-access fixes.
> Hard to
>     > say how
>     >     >> much
>     >     >>     > smaller
>     >     >>     >     > your
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> app
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > would be if
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > we fixed anough stuff without
> that
>     > option.
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     well, including mx:RemoteObject
> seems
>     > to
>     >     >> increase
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> significantly my
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > current
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     app in release mode "mx" is
> 1'8mb
>     > while
>     >     >>     >     > "org.apache.royale" is
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > 1'8mb...but
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     is ok for me since I think is a
> normal
>     >     >> payload for
>     >     >>     > the
>     >     >>     >     > base of
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> a normal
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     App, and MX RO here does an
> important
>     > role
>     >     >> in my
>     >     >>     > case. So
>     >     >>     >     >     >>> happy to pay
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > the
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     price ;)
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > -Alex
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > --
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > Carlos Rovira
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>
>     >
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>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     --
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     Carlos Rovira
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>
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>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>     >     >>     >     >     >> --
>     >     >>     >     >     >> Carlos Rovira
>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >
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>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>     >     >>     >     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     > --
>     >     >>     >     >     > Carlos Rovira
>     >     >>     >     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>
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>     >     >>     >     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >     --
>     >     >>     >     >     Carlos Rovira
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>
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>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >     >
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >     --
>     >     >>     >     Carlos Rovira
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>
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>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>     >
>     >     >>
>     >     >>     --
>     >     >>     Carlos Rovira
>     >     >>
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>     >     > --
>     >     > Carlos Rovira
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