Hi Alex,

one thing to take into account, you talk about to compare debug versions,
but the problem is that debug versions works right, so I think you'll
didn't find nothing related to the real problem there.
Thanks

El mié., 17 oct. 2018 a las 17:48, Carlos Rovira (<carlosrov...@apache.org>)
escribió:

> Hi Alex,
>
> do you want to send you a zip file with the js-debug versions?
> In order to compare both je-relase versions, my problem is that I don't
> know what I must look for, so is difficult to see things. In the other
> hand, I'm spending lots of time in this kind of Debugging what makes me
> unable to work on the real project, and I'm starting to be delayed...
>
> thanks
>
>
>
> El mié., 17 oct. 2018 a las 17:19, Alex Harui (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
> escribió:
>
>> This may be a good opportunity for folks like you to develop skills at
>> debugging things like this.  It won't scale if it is always up to me.
>>  IMO, I would be comparing the un-minified source to see what is
>> different.  The release files are hard to read.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>> On 10/17/18, 6:58 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <carlosrov...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>     Alex,
>>
>>     testing with the test change to the same jewel code and with actual
>> repo
>>     states fails in release mode as expected. So clearly something has
>> changed
>>     this days that makes MX RO fail in release mode.
>>
>>     Using DiffMerge to compare both release .js files shows a clear red
>> zone
>>     where the significant differences exists.
>>
>>     I posted both js files here
>>
>>     [1] Day 14 -
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpaste.apache.org%2FtYEj&amp;data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C38701cdbe0a54f94806408d634388cbf%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636753814815713802&amp;sdata=QWdPCN9c8mDOdZquscvc7O%2Blafd6DiD8Ob355p7jhFg%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>     [2] Day 17 -
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpaste.apache.org%2FAcMa&amp;data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C38701cdbe0a54f94806408d634388cbf%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636753814815713802&amp;sdata=pf9BDreqLvqE7Sfzq9pE4ExUpJoLYwQEWd6q7onMA0U%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>
>>
>>     Could you check the files and see if you see something relevant. I
>> don't
>>     know how to look for. If you need the js files I can send you in
>> email.
>>
>>     Hope you find with this info the point of changes and could find some
>>     solution so we get release mode working againg
>>
>>     thanks
>>
>>     Carlos
>>
>>
>>
>>     El mié., 17 oct. 2018 a las 15:34, Carlos Rovira (<
>> carlosrov...@apache.org>)
>>     escribió:
>>
>>     > Hi Alex,
>>     >
>>     > Going to repos state of Oct, 14th (last commit of that day, in
>> compiler
>>     > and framework, and in my project app repo as well), I can confirm
>> all
>>     > worked on release more and communication with server is ok
>>     >
>>     > for our mxroyale MX RO test: I can't get it to work in release mode
>> either
>>     > adding:
>>     >
>>     > debug false
>>     >
>>     > and
>>     >
>>     >  -js-dynamic-access-unknown-members=true
>>     >
>>     > or removing mx:method section that was not working right at that
>> time.
>>     >
>>     > Our test continue showing white browser screen and the error:
>>     >
>>     > [Error] TypeError: undefined is not an object (evaluating
>> 'a.length')
>>     > ez (App.js:997:141)
>>     > Vy (App.js:996:181)
>>     > qm (App.js:970:266)
>>     > qr (App.js:968:323)
>>     > mq (App.js:239:887)
>>     > R (App.js:166:1223)
>>     > W (App.js:511:1288)
>>     > mw (App.js:642:796)
>>     > Dz (App.js:1044:726)
>>     > create (App.js:908:164)
>>     > start (App.js:909:229)
>>     > Código global (index.html:13)
>>     >
>>     > So I suppose mx:Application and other implied MX things in the
>> background
>>     > are still not suited for release compilation.
>>     >
>>     > So after this, I changed localy all non MX RO components to Jewel,
>> and I
>>     > get the test working in release mode
>>     > Interesting thing here is that it worked without setting
>>     > -js-dynamic-access-unknown-members=true
>>     > So that indicates that MX RO seems does not need this itself.
>>     >
>>     > Next thing is go to actual code, change the example with the same
>> Jewel
>>     > code, compile, test and then compare outputs with DiffMerge to see
>>     > differences.
>>     >
>>     > I'll write result as I get it
>>     >
>>     > Carlos
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > El mié., 17 oct. 2018 a las 10:15, Carlos Rovira (<
>> carlosrov...@apache.org>)
>>     > escribió:
>>     >
>>     >> Hi Alex,
>>     >>
>>     >> the compiler params I reported was not right, were from
>> asconfig.json,
>>     >> but since I'm using maven I saw there was not setup anything, so I
>> setup to
>>     >> :
>>     >>
>>     >> <additionalCompilerOptions>
>>     >> -source-map=true;-js-dynamic-access-unknown-members=true</
>>     >> additionalCompilerOptions>
>>     >>
>>     >> And seems the output is still the same
>>     >>
>>     >> [Error] TypeError: undefined is not an object (evaluating
>> 'a.length')
>>     >> hz (App.js:998:141)
>>     >> Yy (App.js:997:181)
>>     >> rm (App.js:971:266)
>>     >> tr (App.js:969:323)
>>     >> pq (App.js:239:887)
>>     >> R (App.js:166:1223)
>>     >> W (App.js:511:1288)
>>     >> pw (App.js:642:796)
>>     >> Gz (App.js:1045:726)
>>     >> create (App.js:908:164)
>>     >> start (App.js:909:229)
>>     >> Código global (index.html:13)
>>     >>
>>     >> Now, I'll try to go back in time to a previous commit where it
>> works and
>>     >> compare with this output
>>     >>
>>     >> I'll get back with results
>>     >>
>>     >> Carlos
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> El mar., 16 oct. 2018 a las 23:44, Alex Harui
>> (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>>     >> escribió:
>>     >>
>>     >>> Ok. Let us know what you find out.  I'm curious why you are not
>> using
>>     >>> -js-dynamic-access.  I thought that was at least a workaround.
>>     >>>
>>     >>> -Alex
>>     >>>
>>     >>> On 10/16/18, 2:36 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <carlosrov...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>     >>>
>>     >>>     Hi Alex,
>>     >>>
>>     >>>     I'm starting with our simple MXRoyale RO text example and our
>> Java
>>     >>> sample.
>>     >>>     I just pushed a commit to easy change between the old example
>> and
>>     >>> the new
>>     >>>     MX RO test case, and enable RELEASE mode. When doing so and
>> running
>>     >>> it
>>     >>>     doesn't work. this is the output
>>     >>>
>>     >>>     [Error] TypeError: undefined is not an object (evaluating
>> 'a.length')
>>     >>>     hz (App.js:998:141)
>>     >>>     Yy (App.js:997:181)
>>     >>>     rm (App.js:971:266)
>>     >>>     tr (App.js:969:323)
>>     >>>     pq (App.js:239:887)
>>     >>>     R (App.js:166:1223)
>>     >>>     W (App.js:511:1288)
>>     >>>     pw (App.js:642:796)
>>     >>>     Gz (App.js:1045:726)
>>     >>>     create (App.js:908:164)
>>     >>>     start (App.js:909:229)
>>     >>>     Código global (index.html:13)
>>     >>>
>>     >>>     The additional compiler options are:
>>     >>>
>>     >>>     "additionalOptions": "-remove-circulars
>>     >>>     -js-output-optimization=skipAsCoercions",
>>     >>>
>>     >>>     I must to close for today, but I think it will be more easy
>> to debug
>>     >>> from
>>     >>>     this example than from my real world app that has many other
>> things
>>     >>> bundled.
>>     >>>
>>     >>>     Thanks
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>     El mar., 16 oct. 2018 a las 18:49, Alex Harui
>>     >>> (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>>     >>>     escribió:
>>     >>>
>>     >>>     > Hi Carlos,
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>     > Are you saying you can see that the response from the
>> server was
>>     >>> received
>>     >>>     > by XHR in the browser?
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>     > I can't think of anything that I pushed yesterday that
>> would affect
>>     >>>     > response handling.  IMO, the changes I made affected the
>> call to
>>     >>> send(),
>>     >>>     > but not the response handling.  The other change would
>> affect what
>>     >>> MXML
>>     >>>     > elements were created.  I guess you'll just have to debug
>> into it.
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>     > If it helps, there is a -skip-transpile option that is
>> relatively
>>     >>>     > untested, but causes the compiler to skip over any
>> transpilation
>>     >>> and just
>>     >>>     > run the Google Closure Compiler on the js-debug folder.
>> This
>>     >>> should allow
>>     >>>     > you to add trace statements (actually console.out) to the
>> .JS
>>     >>> files in the
>>     >>>     > js-debug folder and help you debug.  If you are only
>> modifying
>>     >>> framework
>>     >>>     > files and not the application files, you don't even need
>>     >>> -skip-transpile,
>>     >>>     > since the framework JS files from the SWC that are in
>> js-debug are
>>     >>> not
>>     >>>     > overwritten if they already exist.
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>     > You could also revert back until you get a version that
>> works, or
>>     >>> compare
>>     >>>     > the current js-debug against working js-debug, if you still
>> have a
>>     >>> working
>>     >>>     > copy somewhere.
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>     > -Alex
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>     > On 10/16/18, 3:57 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <
>> carlosrov...@apache.org>
>>     >>> wrote:
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     Hi Alex
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     It seems that latest changes makes MX RO not work in
>>     >>> js-release mode.
>>     >>>     >     If you remember I could by-pass this problem setting up
>>     >>>     >     -js-dynamic-access-unknown-members=true
>>     >>>     >     compiling my Application, but now testing js-release
>> it's not
>>     >>> working
>>     >>>     > at
>>     >>>     >     all, since we are in release no traces are shown
>>     >>>     >     calling the operation in the backend just fails silenty.
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     I only can say that call is done since I can see traces
>> on my
>>     >>> java
>>     >>>     > server,
>>     >>>     >     and enabling XHR in browser I can see the request is
>> received
>>     >>> but in
>>     >>>     > Royale
>>     >>>     >     nothing happens. I think this in an important issue (in
>> the
>>     >>> end it
>>     >>>     > will be
>>     >>>     >     blocking for me to go to production), do you know of
>> something
>>     >>> done in
>>     >>>     > the
>>     >>>     >     latest changes that could make this fail now?
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     Thanks
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     El lun., 15 oct. 2018 a las 21:17, Carlos Rovira (<
>>     >>>     > carlosrov...@apache.org>)
>>     >>>     >     escribió:
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     > Hi Alex,
>>     >>>     >     > with your latest fixes all is working ok :)
>>     >>>     >     > thanks!
>>     >>>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     > El lun., 15 oct. 2018 a las 20:12, Alex Harui
>>     >>>     > (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>>     >>>     >     > escribió:
>>     >>>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >> Either syntax should work.  I just pushed changes to
>>     >>>     > AbstractService that
>>     >>>     >     >> got service.echo() to work.
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >> -Alex
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >> On 10/15/18, 10:51 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <
>>     >>> carlosrov...@apache.org>
>>     >>>     > wrote:
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     Hi Alex,
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     one thing I not understand is that this:
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     (service.echo as Operation).send();
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     should be
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     service.echo()
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     I think we're trying to remove "send()" and call
>>     >>> directly
>>     >>>     > "echo()"
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     I can go to your latest commits in both compiler
>> and
>>     >>> framework
>>     >>>     > and
>>     >>>     >     >> try, but
>>     >>>     >     >>     don't understand the purpose, since calling with
>> send()
>>     >>> was
>>     >>>     > what we
>>     >>>     >     >> had,
>>     >>>     >     >>     right?
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     Or maybe I'm missing something?
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     thanks
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     Carlos
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     El lun., 15 oct. 2018 a las 19:15, Alex Harui
>>     >>>     >     >> (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>>     >>>     >     >>     escribió:
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     > About 10 hours ago, after I cast the call to
>> send in
>>     >>> the
>>     >>>     > example to
>>     >>>     >     >> be
>>     >>>     >     >>     > (service.echo as Operation).send() , it worked
>> for me.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     > I see you have made several changes to the
>> example
>>     >>> since.  Go
>>     >>>     > back
>>     >>>     >     >> to
>>     >>>     >     >>     > where the example was about 10 hours ago, make
>> that
>>     >>> one
>>     >>>     > change to
>>     >>>     >     >>     > service.echo.send() and it should work.  If
>> other
>>     >>> things are
>>     >>>     > not
>>     >>>     >     >> working, I
>>     >>>     >     >>     > will look into them later.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     > -Alex
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     > On 10/15/18, 10:11 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <
>>     >>>     > carlosrov...@apache.org>
>>     >>>     >     >> wrote:
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     Hi Alex,
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     El lun., 15 oct. 2018 a las 18:54, Alex
>> Harui
>>     >>>     >     >>     > (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     escribió:
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > There may be a couple of things
>> affecting you.
>>     >>> One is
>>     >>>     > that
>>     >>>     >     >> in the
>>     >>>     >     >>     > bug you
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > reported, it looks like only the first
>> RO is
>>     >>> created
>>     >>>     > and the
>>     >>>     >     >> others
>>     >>>     >     >>     > are not.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     I 'm pretty sure the bug about mx:method
>> is not
>>     >>> present
>>     >>>     > since I
>>     >>>     >     >> test
>>     >>>     >     >>     > in my
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     real project and in the example in our
>> repo. In
>>     >>> the first
>>     >>>     > one I
>>     >>>     >     >> don't
>>     >>>     >     >>     > have
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     any mx:method and in the second I comment
>> to
>>     >>> test. Maybe
>>     >>>     > we
>>     >>>     >     >> should
>>     >>>     >     >>     > comment
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     mx:method section in the example for now.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > Second, if you notice in the example,
>> you'll
>>     >>> see things
>>     >>>     > like
>>     >>>     >     >>     > (service.echo
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > as Operation).lastResult.  After adding
>> support
>>     >>> for
>>     >>>     >     >> callProperty,
>>     >>>     >     >>     > the calls
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > now have to change to be either
>> (service.echo as
>>     >>>     >     >> Operation).send() or
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > service.echo().  The current syntax in
>> the repo:
>>     >>>     >     >> service.echo.send()
>>     >>>     >     >>     > will
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > result in an error because the compiler
>> cannot
>>     >>> know if
>>     >>>     > the
>>     >>>     >     >> echo
>>     >>>     >     >>     > property on
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > service is also a proxy or not.  The
>> compiler
>>     >>> currently
>>     >>>     >     >> guesses
>>     >>>     >     >>     > "yes" to
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > make it easier for folks who have
>> existing
>>     >>> nested
>>     >>>     > ObjectProxy
>>     >>>     >     >> data
>>     >>>     >     >>     > sets.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > So, Royale developers will have to do
>> more
>>     >>> "casting"
>>     >>>     > with
>>     >>>     >     >> "as" than
>>     >>>     >     >>     > in
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > Flash.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     check the example since I change already
>> to the
>>     >>> new
>>     >>>     > syntax to
>>     >>>     >     >> help you
>>     >>>     >     >>     > try
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     it. There's no "send()" anymore in the
>> example in
>>     >>> our
>>     >>>     > repo.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > In Flash, the difference between proxy
>> access
>>     >>> and
>>     >>>     > regular
>>     >>>     >     >> property
>>     >>>     >     >>     > access
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > is handled in the runtime.  The JS
>> runtimes do
>>     >>> not do
>>     >>>     > this.
>>     >>>     >     >> The
>>     >>>     >     >>     > compiler
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > could generate code that tests the class
>> at
>>     >>> runtime,
>>     >>>     > but I
>>     >>>     >     >> think
>>     >>>     >     >>     > that will
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > be too slow.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > Specific to RemoteObject, it might be
>> possible
>>     >>> to
>>     >>>     > declare the
>>     >>>     >     >> JS
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > RemoteObject to not be a Proxy and just
>> Dynamic
>>     >>> and
>>     >>>     > have the
>>     >>>     >     >>     > constructor
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > and getOperation call
>> Object.defineProperty,
>>     >>> but that
>>     >>>     > is not a
>>     >>>     >     >>     > general case
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > solution for Proxy.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     Hi Alex, that's for me a bit far from my
>>     >>> knowledge. I'm
>>     >>>     > sure
>>     >>>     >     >> whatever
>>     >>>     >     >>     > you
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     get would be the best solution.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     Currently mx:RO is broken and I'm working
>> with
>>     >>> the repo
>>     >>>     > just
>>     >>>     >     >> before the
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     change localy to advance, hope you could
>> take a
>>     >>> look and
>>     >>>     > see if
>>     >>>     >     >> you
>>     >>>     >     >>     > can fix
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     the issue.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     If not, probably is better to comment the
>> changes
>>     >>> in the
>>     >>>     >     >> compiler (and
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     maybe in the framework?) to make it work
>> again
>>     >>> until we
>>     >>>     > know
>>     >>>     >     >> how to
>>     >>>     >     >>     > fix it.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     One thing I could test today (not related)
>> in the
>>     >>>     > meanwhile is
>>     >>>     >     >> if mx:RO
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     works with small messages on. The response
>> is
>>     >>> not, I
>>     >>>     > think that
>>     >>>     >     >> is the
>>     >>>     >     >>     > AMF
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     serialization-deserialization. But I think
>> this
>>     >>> is not
>>     >>>     > crucial,
>>     >>>     >     >> just
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     disabling it could be ok for now for most
>> of
>>     >>> folks out
>>     >>>     > there
>>     >>>     >     >> (just
>>     >>>     >     >>     > knowing
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     that they need to configure that to false).
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     Thanks
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     Carlos
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > My 2 cents,
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > -Alex
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > On 10/15/18, 4:51 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <
>>     >>>     >     >> carlosrov...@apache.org>
>>     >>>     >     >>     > wrote:
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     Hi Alex,
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     I added to the RO test example the
>>     >>> CompressedRO
>>     >>>     > test case
>>     >>>     >     >>     > commented to
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > help
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     you find the problem.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     I couldn't test like in net RO since
>> now
>>     >>> the entire
>>     >>>     >     >> example is
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > failing, but
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     once the callProperty works for a
>> normal
>>     >>> case
>>     >>>     > should help
>>     >>>     >     >> us to
>>     >>>     >     >>     > check
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > if
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     the rest of RO works since it uses
>>     >>>     >     >> "convertParametersHandler"
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     I'll revert localy this changes in
>> order to
>>     >>> advance
>>     >>>     > in my
>>     >>>     >     >> real
>>     >>>     >     >>     > world
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > app in
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     the mean while
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     thanks
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     El lun., 15 oct. 2018 a las 13:40,
>> Carlos
>>     >>> Rovira (<
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > carlosrov...@apache.org>)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     escribió:
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     > Hi Alex,
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     > I found that even if I remove
>> completely
>>     >>>     >     >>     > CompressedRemoteObject and
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > use
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     > only normal mx:RemoteObject the
>> error
>>     >>> shows:
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     > [Error] TypeError: undefined is
>> not an
>>     >>> object
>>     >>>     >     >> (evaluating
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >
>>     >>> 'this.remoteObject.convertParametersHandler')
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     > El lun., 15 oct. 2018 a las 13:00,
>> Carlos
>>     >>> Rovira
>>     >>>     > (<
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > carlosrov...@apache.org>)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     > escribió:
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> Hi Alex,
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> I'm finding a problem with
>> callProperty.
>>     >>> I'm
>>     >>>     > using a
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> CompressedRemoteObjeect that uses
>> two
>>     >>> hooks in
>>     >>>     >     >> RemoteObject
>>     >>>     >     >>     > API
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> public var
>>     >>> convertParametersHandler:Function;
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> and
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> public var
>> convertResultHandler:Function;
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> this makes the call fail with
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> [Error] TypeError: undefined is
>> not an
>>     >>> object
>>     >>>     >     >> (evaluating
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>>     >>> 'this.remoteObject.convertParametersHandler')
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> send (Operation.js:109)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> callProperty
>> (AbstractService.js:147:111)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> dologin (LoginForm.js:181)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> $EH1 (LoginForm.js:226)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> (función anónima)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> fireListener (events.js:744)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> fireListenerOverride
>>     >>> (HTMLElementWrapper.js:61)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> handleBrowserEvent_
>> (events.js:870)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> (función anónima) (events.js:289)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> So I guess the proxy is trying to
>> proxy
>>     >>> all even
>>     >>>     > its
>>     >>>     >     >> own
>>     >>>     >     >>     > member
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > functions
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> that should not be affected,
>> makes this
>>     >>> sense?
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> thanks
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> El lun., 15 oct. 2018 a las 7:15,
>> Alex
>>     >>> Harui
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> escribió:
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> I pushed changes to the compiler
>> and
>>     >>> framework
>>     >>>     > to try
>>     >>>     >     >> to get
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> callProperty to work.  I don't
>> have a
>>     >>> test case
>>     >>>     > but
>>     >>>     >     >> give it
>>     >>>     >     >>     > a try
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > and see
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> what happens.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> If you compare the size of the
>> output
>>     >>> with and
>>     >>>     > without
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> -js-dynamic-access, you can see
>> the
>>     >>> theoretical
>>     >>>     >     >> savings of
>>     >>>     >     >>     > not
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > using that
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> option.  If that savings might
>> matter,
>>     >>> then it
>>     >>>     > might
>>     >>>     >     >> be worth
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > spending some
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> time on fixing up the issues that
>>     >>>     > -js-dynamic-access
>>     >>>     >     >> "works
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > around".  But
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> keep in mind that there probably
>> isn't
>>     >>> any way
>>     >>>     > to
>>     >>>     >     >> grab all
>>     >>>     >     >>     > of the
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> theoretical savings.  What we
>> don’t
>>     >>> know yet is
>>     >>>     > where
>>     >>>     >     >> you'll
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > actually end
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> up.  It might even be true that
>>     >>>     > -js-dynamic-access is
>>     >>>     >     >> more
>>     >>>     >     >>     > optimal.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> -Alex
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> On 10/14/18, 3:02 PM, "Carlos
>> Rovira" <
>>     >>>     >     >>     > carlosrov...@apache.org>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > wrote:
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     Hi Alex
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     El dom., 14 oct. 2018 a las
>> 23:48,
>>     >>> Alex
>>     >>>     > Harui
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     escribió:
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > I got the resources
>> working so I
>>     >>> will
>>     >>>     > look into
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > Proxy.callProperty.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     That's cool, I'm closing for
>> today,
>>     >>> I can
>>     >>>     > try in
>>     >>>     >     >> some
>>     >>>     >     >>     > hours if
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > you
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> upload
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     some changes. Thanks
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > The issue with
>> js-dynamic-access
>>     >>> isn't
>>     >>>     > about MX
>>     >>>     >     >>     > RemoteObject
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > vs
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> Basic
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > RemoteObject, it is
>> whether, if
>>     >>> we fixed
>>     >>>     > places
>>     >>>     >     >> in any
>>     >>>     >     >>     > of
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > the code
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> where
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > minification breaks
>> things, what
>>     >>> the
>>     >>>     >     >> size/performance
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > trade-off
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> would be.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > Some variable names would
>> be
>>     >>> longer, but
>>     >>>     > some
>>     >>>     >     >> other
>>     >>>     >     >>     > code
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > might be
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> more
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > verbose as public vars are
>>     >>> converted into
>>     >>>     >     >>     > getter/setters and
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > have
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> function
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > call overhead.  I guess
>> we'll
>>     >>> find out
>>     >>>     > when we
>>     >>>     >     >> get
>>     >>>     >     >>     > someone's
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > app
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> to the
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > point where they are ready
>> to get
>>     >>> the
>>     >>>     > production
>>     >>>     >     >>     > version to
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > run.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     Well, I'll need to have my
>> app in
>>     >>>     > production by
>>     >>>     >     >> the
>>     >>>     >     >>     > end/start
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > of the
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> year,
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     so we'll can check this with
>> mine.
>>     >>> For now
>>     >>>     > it
>>     >>>     >     >> seems I
>>     >>>     >     >>     > need to
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > left
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> this
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     configuration or release
>> version
>>     >>> can pass
>>     >>>     > the
>>     >>>     >     >> login (the
>>     >>>     >     >>     > mx RO
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > call
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> to the
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     server)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > -Alex
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > On 10/14/18, 2:23 PM,
>> "Carlos
>>     >>> Rovira" <
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > carlosrov...@apache.org>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> wrote:
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     Hi Alex,
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     El dom., 14 oct. 2018
>> a las
>>     >>> 18:32,
>>     >>>     > Alex
>>     >>>     >     >> Harui
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid
>> >)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     escribió:
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > Hi Carlos,
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > JS proxy doesn't
>> support
>>     >>>     > callProperty
>>     >>>     >     >> yet.  Feel
>>     >>>     >     >>     > free
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > to add
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> it, or
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > I will
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > after I finish up
>>     >>> ResourceManager.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     JS proxy is
>>     >>> mx.utlis.ObjectProxy or
>>     >>>     > you
>>     >>>     >     >> mean maybe
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> AbstractService
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     callProperty?
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     I could take a look,
>> but no
>>     >>> promises
>>     >>>     > since
>>     >>>     >     >> I don't
>>     >>>     >     >>     > know
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> exactly how
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > that
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     works. A little of
>> guidance
>>     >>> here
>>     >>>     > could me
>>     >>>     >     >> make get
>>     >>>     >     >>     > this
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > done.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > I don't doubt that
>>     >>> minification
>>     >>>     > breaks
>>     >>>     >     >> lots of
>>     >>>     >     >>     > things
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > that
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > js-dynamic-access
>> fixes.
>>     >>> Hard to
>>     >>>     > say how
>>     >>>     >     >> much
>>     >>>     >     >>     > smaller
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > your
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> app
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > would be if
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > we fixed anough stuff
>>     >>> without that
>>     >>>     > option.
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     well, including
>>     >>> mx:RemoteObject seems
>>     >>>     > to
>>     >>>     >     >> increase
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> significantly my
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > current
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     app in release mode
>> "mx" is
>>     >>> 1'8mb
>>     >>>     > while
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > "org.apache.royale" is
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > 1'8mb...but
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     is ok for me since I
>> think is
>>     >>> a normal
>>     >>>     >     >> payload for
>>     >>>     >     >>     > the
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     > base of
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> a normal
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     App, and MX RO here
>> does an
>>     >>> important
>>     >>>     > role
>>     >>>     >     >> in my
>>     >>>     >     >>     > case. So
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>> happy to pay
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     > the
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     price ;)
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > -Alex
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > --
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     > Carlos Rovira
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&amp;data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C38701cdbe0a54f94806408d634388cbf%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636753814815713802&amp;sdata=5VSjC5U%2FEvLIyycQIgDTOdOvKozW4cat3zvHPR%2FfTYs%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     --
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>     Carlos Rovira
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&amp;data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C38701cdbe0a54f94806408d634388cbf%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636753814815713802&amp;sdata=5VSjC5U%2FEvLIyycQIgDTOdOvKozW4cat3zvHPR%2FfTYs%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> --
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >> Carlos Rovira
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >
>>     >>>     >     >>
>>     >>>     >
>>     >>>
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>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >>
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     >
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     > --
>>     >>>     >     >>     >     >     > Carlos Rovira
>>     >>>     >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
>

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