Hi Alex,

Thank you! I will be working in release next week, so if anyone have
anything to add there is some time.

Thanks,
Piotr

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019, 7:28 AM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> wrote:

> Mx tests are working locally for me with this last change to
> ListItemRenderer.
>
> So, the question for everyone is:  is there anything else we want to put
> in before trying to cut a release?
>
> We might need to change the ASDoc app after Greg's last change.  We might
> want to bang on ASDoc for a bit and see if anything major needs fixing
> before cutting a release.
>
> The only other thing I thought of was trying to upgrade Selenium so we can
> use a recent FireFox version.  Right now we are stuck way back on FF47, but
> I've also heard that more recent FF versions are less friendly to Flash, so
> you have to use some other browser to test Flash.  That's ok for building
> the Royale SDK since the Flash tests are run in FlashPlayerDebugger and the
> JS tests are run in a browser like FF.
>
> I'm tempted to say we should punt the inject_html in modules problem to
> the next release.
>
> I will be adding more details to
> https://github.com/apache/royale-asjs/wiki/Release-Manager-Notes
> But there should be enough there to get an RC out for vote.
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
> On 6/17/19, 11:06 AM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
>     I just saw ASDoc work well enough for me to start with
> mx.binding.BindabilityInfo and switch to mx.charts.AxisRenderer.
>
>     There might be JSON parsing issues with other classes.  Run the
> bin/js-debug version, check the console if things don't load and see what
> file failed to load and why.
>
>     I will take a look at MXTests next.
>
>     -Alex
>
>     On 6/17/19, 8:08 AM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
>         ASDoc is not fully working for me.  I've been working on that the
> past several days.  It took quite a while to fix the JSON output from new
> and interesting ASDoc patterns.  I'm now looking into failures due to
> changes in coercion rules in the JS output.  ASDoc was trying to save time
> by using plain objects that were isomorphic to a class instead of actual
> class instances.
>
>         MXTests are failing on the CI server and probably locally but I
> haven't gotten that far.
>
>         I would think we want these things to work, but you are the RM so
> it is up to you.  Volunteers are welcome to help with these and other tasks.
>
>         -Alex
>
>         On 6/17/19, 12:44 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>             Hi Alex,
>
>             I don't see any answer here - can I start with trying your
> instruction and
>             start release ?
>
>             Thanks,
>             Piotr
>
>             śr., 12 cze 2019 o 10:12 Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrov...@apache.org> napisał(a):
>
>             > Hi Alex,
>             > just build from scratch right now and seems maven and ant
> was ok
>             >
>             > El mié., 12 jun. 2019 a las 10:02, Alex Harui
> (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>             > escribió:
>             >
>             > > The merge is complete, and the main builds seem to be
> successful, except
>             > > for Maven on royale-asjs which was failing before the
> merge.
>             > >
>             > > I'm still catching up on other things, but I think there
> are some bugs we
>             > > need to fix before cutting the release?  I think ASDoc may
> not be fully
>             > > working?  What else?
>             > >
>             > > -Alex
>             > >
>             > > On 6/10/19, 11:05 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>             > wrote:
>             > >
>             > >     Hi Alex,
>             > >
>             > >     Many thanks for that! I will try to be RM. I will have
> some dedicated
>             > > time
>             > >     for that. I will wait for your instruction and merge
> to develop.
>             > >
>             > >     Thanks,
>             > >     Piotr
>             > >
>             > >
>             > >     On Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 7:31 PM Alex Harui
> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>             > > wrote:
>             > >
>             > >     > Well, that turned out to be much more time-consuming
> than I
>             > > expected, but
>             > >     > we can now create identical release artifacts on Mac
> and Win.  I am
>             > > hopeful
>             > >     > this effort will pay off not only now in having
> other folks
>             > generate
>             > >     > releases, but also in the future if signed binaries
> become a
>             > > requirement.
>             > >     >
>             > >     > There continues to be a lot of distractions in my
> life that can
>             > cause
>             > >     > delays, but I hope to merge the release_practice
> branches into
>             > > develop over
>             > >     > the next day or two and figure out where in the wiki
> to document
>             > the
>             > >     > release process.  So, now is the time for one or
> more people to
>             > step
>             > > up to
>             > >     > be the RMs for 0.9.6 and help debug and improve the
> process.
>             > >     >
>             > >     > I am going to try very hard not to "own" the
> process.  If something
>             > > goes
>             > >     > wrong, I am going to ask others to try to debug and
> fix it first
>             > > because it
>             > >     > is in the project's best interests for others to
> truly understand
>             > > how this
>             > >     > stuff works.
>             > >     >
>             > >     > Thanks,
>             > >     > -Alex
>             > >     >
>             > >     > On 5/23/19, 9:54 AM, "Alex Harui"
> <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>
>             > wrote:
>             > >     >
>             > >     >     It has turned out to be harder than expected to
> get the same
>             > > binaries
>             > >     > on Mac and Win.  I now have the identical binaries
> for
>             > > royale-compiler and
>             > >     > royale-typedefs Maven artifacts and am starting on
> royale-asjs.  I
>             > > might
>             > >     > get lucky and the changes that fixed royale-typedefs
> SWCs will
>             > > magically
>             > >     > get the royale-asjs SWCs to match.  Then we have to
> make the Ant
>             > > artifacts
>             > >     > match.
>             > >     >
>             > >     >     There have been a lot of distractions in my
> non-work life which
>             > > has
>             > >     > also impeded progress.  I hope to make much progress
> this coming
>             > > week and
>             > >     > if we're lucky, I will be asking for a volunteer (or
> volunteers) to
>             > > test
>             > >     > drive all of this stuff and be the RM for 0.9.6.  I
> am not going to
>             > > be the
>             > >     > RM.
>             > >     >
>             > >     >     -Alex
>             > >     >
>             > >     >     On 5/23/19, 9:39 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
>             > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com
>             > > >
>             > >     > wrote:
>             > >     >
>             > >     >         Hi Alex,
>             > >     >
>             > >     >         It's been a while since you have started
> effort with
>             > > automating
>             > >     > build.
>             > >     >         Where are you with that ? Are we closer to
> started 0.9.6.
>             > Do
>             > > you
>             > >     > need any
>             > >     >         help with this ?
>             > >     >
>             > >     >         Thanks,
>             > >     >         Piotr
>             > >     >
>             > >     >         wt., 2 kwi 2019 o 19:30 Alex Harui
>             > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid
>             > > >
>             > >     > napisał(a):
>             > >     >
>             > >     >         > Update:
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         > In order to make verification of binary
> release packages
>             > > created
>             > >     > on the
>             > >     >         > server easier, I have made changes to our
> build scripts
>             > and
>             > >     > tools to try to
>             > >     >         > generate reproducible binaries.  I've seen
> two different
>             > > builds
>             > >     > compare on
>             > >     >         > my Mac.   The next challenge will be to
> see if the server
>             > > can
>             > >     > build a
>             > >     >         > package on Windows that will compare on
> Mac.
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         > One of the changes I needed to make is to
> JBurg.  The
>             > > version of
>             > >     > JBurg we
>             > >     >         > use generates method names including a
> hash that doesn't
>             > >     > reproduce the same
>             > >     >         > name each time.  I have changes to JBurg
> ready, however
>             > > JBurg is
>             > >     > currently
>             > >     >         > under CPL which is category B.  We only
> need one file, we
>             > > don't
>             > >     > need or
>             > >     >         > want all of JBurg at this time.  The one
> JBurg file is
>             > > jointly
>             > >     > owned by
>             > >     >         > Adobe and Tom Harwood.  I've contact Tom
> and he will be
>             > > filing
>             > >     > an ICLA and
>             > >     >         > has given me permission to commit the
> lines he owns in
>             > > that one
>             > >     > file.
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         > This is the revision of the file that will
> be donated by
>             > >     > Tom/Adobe.
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >
>             > >
>             >
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fp%2Fjburg%2Fcode%2Fci%2F66c287943376a74ac791f3d3bf969ab160bf80ff%2Ftree%2Fsrc%2Fgenerator%2Fjburg%2Fburg%2FJBurgGenerator.java&amp;data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C2e85c48a75964c54aadd08d6f34e8829%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636963915959643335&amp;sdata=ZYf5QUAPr%2BNKndH9vr8pI7TeTAWX1hxLMV%2FyKb1U0g4%3D&amp;reserved=0
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         > Once this file goes in with the changes to
> keep the
>             > method
>             > > names
>             > >     > the same,
>             > >     >         > there will be more tweaks to the release
> tasks and then
>             > we
>             > > can
>             > >     > try cutting
>             > >     >         > a release.  I'm thinking we'll be at that
> point in early
>             > > May, so
>             > >     > now is the
>             > >     >         > time to get stuff in for the 0.9.6 release.
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         > Thanks,
>             > >     >         > -Alex
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         > On 3/8/19, 9:27 AM, "Alex Harui" <
> aha...@adobe.com>
>             > wrote:
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         >     I would much rather have others find
> and fix issues
>             > >     > themselves.  That
>             > >     >         > way, more people than just me will know
> how to maintain
>             > the
>             > >     > system.  It
>             > >     >         > actually turns out that, IMO, a group of
> people can work
>             > > on the
>             > >     > release.
>             > >     >         > There are 14 steps.  Literally, 14
> different people could
>             > >     > execute one step
>             > >     >         > each.
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         >     My 2 cents,
>             > >     >         >     -Alex
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         >     On 3/8/19, 2:13 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <
>             > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
>             > >     > wrote:
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         >         Hi Alex,
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         >         amazing work! congrats to reach to
> this point! :)
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         >         I need to put my head on all of
> this, but count
>             > on
>             > > me to
>             > >     > be a RM.
>             > >     >         > I think
>             > >     >         >         the best thing should be that you
> be the first RM
>             > > to try
>             > >     > your own
>             > >     >         >         development at least for the first
> time, and then
>             > > the
>             > >     > rest of us
>             > >     >         > will
>             > >     >         >         follow you on the next releases.
> With all this on
>             > > place
>             > >     > we maybe
>             > >     >         > could
>             > >     >         >         release once a month or every two
> months...
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         >         Thanks for doing this :)
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         >         Carlos
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         >         El vie., 8 mar. 2019 a las 1:55,
> Alex Harui
>             > >     >         > (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>)
>             > >     >         >         escribió:
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >         >         > OK, I've now seen Jenkins
> perform the steps to
>             > > build
>             > >     > the release
>             > >     >         >         > artifacts.  Folks interested in
> Docker-izing
>             > the
>             > > steps
>             > >     > are
>             > >     >         > welcome to look
>             > >     >         >         > at the jobs on the "Royale
> Release" tab on the
>             > CI
>             > >     > server.
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >
>             > >
>             >
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapacheroyaleci.westus2.cloudapp.azure.com%3A8080%2Fview%2FRoyale%2520Release%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C2e85c48a75964c54aadd08d6f34e8829%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636963915959643335&amp;sdata=tCcelcUXdJFddO5EtAM3or35OvY1W55uN0axY%2FJRIcI%3D&amp;reserved=0
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         > These steps assume that the RM
> can run the
>             > basic
>             > > Maven
>             > >     > and Ant
>             > >     >         > build on
>             > >     >         >         > the RM's computer. I think
> that's a fair
>             > > requirement
>             > >     > since all
>             > >     >         > of us on the
>             > >     >         >         > PMC need to able to do that to
> build the RC in
>             > > order
>             > >     > to vote on
>             > >     >         > it.
>             > >     >         >         >  Jenkins does other tasks like
> run the Maven
>             > > release
>             > >     > plugin
>             > >     >         > steps.
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         > Currently that results in
> binaries on Jenkins
>             > > that are
>             > >     >         > downloaded to the
>             > >     >         >         > RM's computer.  These binaries
> need to be
>             > > verified by
>             > >     > the RM
>             > >     >         > which is the
>             > >     >         >         > next phase I will be starting on
> now.  The RM
>             > > verifies
>             > >     > the bits
>             > >     >         > and then
>             > >     >         >         > PGP signs them.  And then the
> bits are uploaded
>             > > off
>             > >     > the RM's
>             > >     >         > computer to
>             > >     >         >         > Maven Staging or dist.a.o/dev.
>  If that
>             > > uploading
>             > >     > turns out to
>             > >     >         > be a point
>             > >     >         >         > of failure, we have the option
> of having
>             > Jenkins
>             > >     > upload the big
>             > >     >         > files and
>             > >     >         >         > have the RM only upload PGP
> signature files.
>             > Or
>             > >     > finding a way
>             > >     >         > for Jenkins
>             > >     >         >         > to get the signature files from
> the RM.  The
>             > > uploads
>             > >     > worked fine
>             > >     >         > for me,
>             > >     >         >         > but then again, so did the old
> script's
>             > uploads.
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         > Therefore, once I get the binary
> verification
>             > > phase
>             > >     > completed, I
>             > >     >         > think
>             > >     >         >         > someone other than me should be
> the RM and try
>             > > to use
>             > >     > these
>             > >     >         > steps to
>             > >     >         >         > generate the release and help
> debug the process
>             > > for
>             > >     > the next
>             > >     >         > RM.  So,
>             > >     >         >         > please try to carve out some
> time to be the RM.
>             > > One
>             > >     > advantage
>             > >     >         > of doing
>             > >     >         >         > most of the work on Jenkins is
> that it frees up
>             > > my
>             > >     > computer to
>             > >     >         > do other
>             > >     >         >         > things while Jenkins is cranking
> away.
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         > I think we're at least a week
> away from binary
>             > >     > verification,
>             > >     >         > maybe two, so
>             > >     >         >         > it is time to start thinking
> about what is
>             > going
>             > > in
>             > >     > this release.
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         > Thanks,
>             > >     >         >         > -Alex
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         > On 3/7/19, 4:15 PM, "Alex Harui"
>             > >     > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>
>             > >     >         > wrote:
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >     In case you haven't guessed,
> I'm testing
>             > out
>             > >     > Jenkins and its
>             > >     >         > ability
>             > >     >         >         > to create the artifacts and send
> emails.
>             > Please
>             > >     > ignore any
>             > >     >         > email that
>             > >     >         >         > looks like a vote or discuss
> thread.
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >     Thanks,
>             > >     >         >         >     -Alex
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >     On 2/10/19, 8:44 PM, "Alex
> Harui"
>             > >     > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>
>             > >     >         > wrote:
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >         Om,
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >         Well, that's what I used
> for the last
>             > >     > release.  I'm sure
>             > >     >         > there is
>             > >     >         >         > probably some inaccuracy in it.
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >         That said, I'm
> abandoning that document
>             > > and
>             > >     > taking a new
>             > >     >         > angle
>             > >     >         >         > because that document presumed
> that the release
>             > >     > manager was
>             > >     >         > trying to
>             > >     >         >         > create a release on his/her
> computer.  I've
>             > > given up
>             > >     > on that and
>             > >     >         > working on
>             > >     >         >         > making releases from a shared
> computer for the
>             > > reasons
>             > >     > I've
>             > >     >         > stated
>             > >     >         >         > upthread.  I hope to make some
> progress on that
>             > > this
>             > >     > week.
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >         The key difference is
> that the new
>             > angle
>             > > does
>             > >     > not
>             > >     >         > presume that you
>             > >     >         >         > have Git SSH and PGP signatures
> all set up on
>             > > some
>             > >     > computer.  I
>             > >     >         > have not
>             > >     >         >         > looked into how Docker would
> handle that.  You
>             > >     > certainly
>             > >     >         > wouldn't want the
>             > >     >         >         > Docker image to contain your SSH
> or PGP
>             > > keys/creds.
>             > >     >  And if the
>             > >     >         > Docker
>             > >     >         >         > image doesn't, then that is
> another stumbling
>             > > block
>             > >     > for future
>             > >     >         > RMs.
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >         The other key difference
> is that the
>             > old
>             > >     > script presumed
>             > >     >         > you could
>             > >     >         >         > create the 3 release in 3 huge
> "easy" steps.
>             > > We've
>             > >     > seen that is
>             > >     >         > only true
>             > >     >         >         > for me.  So the new angle
> creates many discrete
>             > > steps
>             > >     > managed by
>             > >     >         > Jenkins.
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >         So, it is up to you to
> decide what you
>             > > want to
>             > >     >         > "Docker-ize".  You
>             > >     >         >         > can try to Docker-ize the
> current 3 big steps,
>             > > so RMs
>             > >     > can try to
>             > >     >         > run it on
>             > >     >         >         > their systems, but I'd bet they
> will just faiI
>             > > due to
>             > >     > network
>             > >     >         > issues.  I
>             > >     >         >         > would be interested in using
> Docker to make
>             > each
>             > > of
>             > >     > these many
>             > >     >         > discrete
>             > >     >         >         > steps portable to another
> server.   I'm not
>             > > going to
>             > >     > involve
>             > >     >         > Docker at this
>             > >     >         >         > point.  My main goal is just to
> see if I can
>             > > create a
>             > >     > workflow
>             > >     >         > of many
>             > >     >         >         > discrete steps that isn't
> horribly painful.
>             > > Once we
>             > >     > see what
>             > >     >         > these steps
>             > >     >         >         > turn out to be, then we can
> worry about server
>             > >     > portability of
>             > >     >         > those steps.
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >         Either way, we want to
> know about
>             > running
>             > >     >         > Browser+Selenium for
>             > >     >         >         > sure.  And maybe
> FlashPlayerDebugger or AIR.  I
>             > > would
>             > >     > want to
>             > >     >         > know, for
>             > >     >         >         > example, how you debug a failing
> checkintest
>             > in a
>             > >     > Docker
>             > >     >         > container.
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >         Thanks,
>             > >     >         >         >         -Alex
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >         On 2/10/19, 5:18 PM,
> "OmPrakash
>             > > Muppirala" <
>             > >     >         > bigosma...@gmail.com>
>             > >     >         >         > wrote:
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >             Alex,
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >             Just to be clear, I
> am following
>             > the
>             > > steps
>             > >     > from here
>             > >     >         > to try
>             > >     >         >         > and setup a
>             > >     >         >         >             docker container.
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >
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>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >             Is this doc up to
> date?
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >             Thanks,
>             > >     >         >         >             Om
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >             On Wed, Feb 6, 2019
> at 12:02 PM
>             > > OmPrakash
>             > >     > Muppirala <
>             > >     >         >         > bigosma...@gmail.com>
>             > >     >         >         >             wrote:
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >         >             > One approach is to
> have each step
>             > > in the
>             > >     > process
>             > >     >         > spin up a
>             > >     >         >         > docker image.
>             > >     >         >         >             > And use
> docker-compose to run
>             > each
>             > >     > step.  All the
>             > >     >         > images can
>             > >     >         >         > be made to
>             > >     >         >         >             > share a common
> volume where all
>             > the
>             > >     > artifacts are
>             > >     >         > stored
>             > >     >         >         > across steps.
>             > >     >         >         >             >
>             > >     >         >         >             > You are right
> about the
>             > networking
>             > > issue
>             > >     > though.
>             > >     >         > Any
>             > >     >         >         > network related
>             > >     >         >         >             > failure that
> occurs on the host
>             > > machine
>             > >     > will most
>             > >     >         > likely
>             > >     >         >         > occur in the
>             > >     >         >         >             > docker container.
> Although, I am
>             > > not
>             > >     > clear how we
>             > >     >         > can
>             > >     >         >         > guarantee that the
>             > >     >         >         >             > same issues will
> not occur on the
>             > >     > Jenkins server.
>             > >     >         > I mean,
>             > >     >         >         > what is special
>             > >     >         >         >             > about the Jenkins
> server that
>             > > makes it
>             > >     > immune to
>             > >     >         > these
>             > >     >         >         > networking issues?
>             > >     >         >         >             >
>             > >     >         >         >             > Thanks,
>             > >     >         >         >             > Om
>             > >     >         >         >             >
>             > >     >         >         >             > On Wed, Feb 6,
> 2019 at 11:48 AM
>             > > Alex
>             > >     > Harui
>             > >     >         >         > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>             > >     >         >         >             > wrote:
>             > >     >         >         >             >
>             > >     >         >         >             >> Again, I don't
> know anything
>             > about
>             > >     > Docker, but
>             > >     >         > before we
>             > >     >         >         > spend a lot of
>             > >     >         >         >             >> time on Docker, I
> also want to
>             > > point
>             > >     > out that the
>             > >     >         > process
>             > >     >         >         > to create a
>             > >     >         >         >             >> release cannot
> really be thought
>             > > of as
>             > >     > "one
>             > >     >         > application".
>             > >     >         >         > It will be a
>             > >     >         >         >             >> series of "steps"
> to run.    How
>             > > many
>             > >     > steps
>             > >     >         > depends on
>             > >     >         >         > whether we think we
>             > >     >         >         >             >> can isolate
> enough stuff via
>             > > Docker to
>             > >     > be able to
>             > >     >         > run
>             > >     >         >         > Docker on the RM's
>             > >     >         >         >             >> computer instead
> of some shared
>             > >     > computer.  On a
>             > >     >         > shared
>             > >     >         >         > computer there will
>             > >     >         >         >             >> be dozens of
> steps because the
>             > RM
>             > > will
>             > >     > need to
>             > >     >         > enter
>             > >     >         >         > passwords to commit
>             > >     >         >         >             >> stuff.  On a
> local computer I
>             > > guess the
>             > >     > RM can
>             > >     >         > supply
>             > >     >         >         > passwords but I think
>             > >     >         >         >             >> there will be
> stopping points
>             > > where the
>             > >     > Maven
>             > >     >         > artifacts are
>             > >     >         >         > deployed and
>             > >     >         >         >             >> the staging repo
> is closed, and
>             > > another
>             > >     > stopping
>             > >     >         > point for
>             > >     >         >         > the vote.  It
>             > >     >         >         >             >> seems like Docker
> works by
>             > > downloading
>             > >     >         > dependencies.  Given
>             > >     >         >         > that the
>             > >     >         >         >             >> problem the RMs
> had last time
>             > > involved
>             > >     > downloads
>             > >     >         > and
>             > >     >         >         > uploads, why do we
>             > >     >         >         >             >> think Docker will
> really solve
>             > > this for
>             > >     > creating
>             > >     >         > releases
>             > >     >         >         > on local machines?
>             > >     >         >         >             >>
>             > >     >         >         >             >> The reason to do
> this on a
>             > shared
>             > >     > machine is so
>             > >     >         > that new
>             > >     >         >         > RMs don't have
>             > >     >         >         >             >> to do as much
> setup.  But then I
>             > > wonder
>             > >     > about the
>             > >     >         >         > efficiency of kicking off
>             > >     >         >         >             >> that many Docker
> images.
>             > Jenkins
>             > > can
>             > >     > manage that
>             > >     >         > already.
>             > >     >         >         > Does Docker
>             > >     >         >         >             >> have some sort of
> similar
>             > > Dashboard or
>             > >     > would we
>             > >     >         > use Jenkins
>             > >     >         >         > to kick off
>             > >     >         >         >             >> Docker steps?  I
> can't quite
>             > > picture
>             > >     > what is the
>             > >     >         > outermost
>             > >     >         >         >             >> control/dashboard.
>             > >     >         >         >             >>
>             > >     >         >         >             >> -Alex
>             > >     >         >         >             >>
>             > >     >         >         >             >> On 2/6/19, 11:03
> AM, "Harbs" <
>             > >     >         > harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>             > >     >         >         >             >>
>             > >     >         >         >             >>     A quick
> search turns up
>             > this:
>             > >     >         >         >             >>
>             > >     >         >         >             >>
>             > >     >         >         >             >>
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >
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>             > >     >         >         >             >> <
>             > >     >         >         >             >>
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >
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>             > >     >         >         >             >> >
>             > >     >         >         >             >>
>             > >     >         >         >             >>
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >
>             >
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>             > >     >         >         >             >> <
>             > >     >         >         >             >>
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >
>             >
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>             > >     >         >         >             >> >
>             > >     >         >         >             >>
>             > >     >         >         >             >>
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >
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>             > >     >         >         >             >> <
>             > >     >         >         >             >>
>             > >     >         >         >
>             > >     >         >
>             > >     >
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>             > >     >         >         >             >> >
>             > >     >         >         >             >>
>             > >     >         >         >             >>     > On Feb 6,
> 2019, at 8:59
>             > PM,
>             > > Alex
>             > >     > Harui
>             > >     >         >         > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>
>             > >     >         >         >             >> wrote:
>             > >     >         >         >             >>     >
>             > >     >         >         >             >>     > Thanks for
> volunteering to
>             > > try it
>             > >     > Om.  IMO,
>             > >     >         > even more
>             > >     >         >         > important
>             > >     >         >         >             >> than
> Firefox+Flash is
>             > >     > SomeBrowser+Selenium.  We
>             > >     >         > may also
>             > >     >         >         > need to run Adobe
>             > >     >         >         >             >> AIR's adb.  We
> could probably
>             > > turn off
>             > >     > the Flash
>             > >     >         > tests or
>             > >     >         >         > replace Flash
>             > >     >         >         >             >> with AIR.
>             > >     >         >         >             >>     >
>             > >     >         >         >             >>     > Thanks,
>

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