I too refer to it as "standalone".
"User-managed" was mainly invented to have a name for distributed "standalon", 
in which case standalone could be confused with "singlenode"?

Thanks David for the other list reference. Useful context for sure.

Jan

> 26. feb. 2024 kl. 19:05 skrev Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com>:
> 
> Can you re-share that link to the thread "SolrCloud Alone: Deprecate 
> Standalone Mode”. I took a look and didn’t find it.
> 
> We could change to standalone ;-).  We have a nice glossary in our ref guide 
> https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/getting-started/solr-glossary.html 
> that doesn’t actually include “Standalone” or “User Managed”.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2024, at 3:59 PM, David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Also reference a bigger discussion of August that same year:
>> "SolrCloud Alone: Deprecate Standalone Mode"
>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@solr.apache.org
>> 
>> (reading past conversations on a topic should be required reading when
>> introducing again)
>> 
>> RE "user-managed" I recall Cassandra was working on the ref guide and
>> tried to get us to harmonize on some terminology.  Ultimately "user
>> managed" was chosen and thus this term is widespread in the ref guide
>> despite "standalone" clearly being used for many years.  Personally, I
>> *much* prefer "standalone" and continue to use it (sorry?).
>> 
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 7:14 PM Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cross referencing earlier discussion "[DISCUSS] Make Cloud mode the default 
>>> option in bin/solr" from May 2021:
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/79xp2xfvqwhr9zccmsvjvj0hckgg5m6w
>>> 
>>> Some valid arguments for an against in that thread.
>>> 
>>> Ideally I'd prefer SIP-14 to be done before embedded zk is promoted as the 
>>> best way to run Solr.
>>> 
>>> Jan
>>> 
>>>> 23. feb. 2024 kl. 19:06 skrev Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> During today’s community discussion the topic of moving to defaulting to 
>>>> SolrCloud mode came up.
>>>> 
>>>> The idea here is that when a user run’s “bin/solr start” it fires up an 
>>>> embedded zookeeper.   Same behavior as “bin/solr -c” in Solr 9.5.    If 
>>>> you have a Zookeeper Ensemble then “bin/solr start -z YOUR_ZK_SETUP” would 
>>>> connect to the external ensemble instead.
>>>> 
>>>> If you want to continue to use the class user managed mode, then bin/solr 
>>>> start —user-managed maybe?   Or bin/solr start —standalone ???
>>>> 
>>>> Other changes would be to go through the Ref Guide and where we have both 
>>>> SolrCloud and non SolrCloud content that we make sure SolrCloud content is 
>>>> at the top instead of at the bottom.
>>>> 
>>>> To me, this feels like a change that would go on main.
>>>> 
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> Eric
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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