IIRC "standalone" was deemed the wrong color for the shed because [original/non-cloud/standalone/legacy/user-managed] solr can have more than one machine, and does distributed search.
On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 3:22 PM Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com> wrote: > Thanks for the link…. I don’t think anything I read in the thread > suggested that merely changing the default to cloud mode instead of > standalone mode (sounds like we are going back to that term!) would raise > any issues. Obviously deprecating standalone is a much bigger deal and > not part of the scope of this thread…. > > > On Feb 26, 2024, at 7:35 PM, David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Whoops; bad URL. Here it is: > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/r7mh069t5zvqv3o3ymglm627pcdgjzfw > > > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 3:59 PM David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > >> Also reference a bigger discussion of August that same year: > >> "SolrCloud Alone: Deprecate Standalone Mode" > >> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@solr.apache.org > >> > >> (reading past conversations on a topic should be required reading when > >> introducing again) > >> > >> RE "user-managed" I recall Cassandra was working on the ref guide and > >> tried to get us to harmonize on some terminology. Ultimately "user > >> managed" was chosen and thus this term is widespread in the ref guide > >> despite "standalone" clearly being used for many years. Personally, I > >> *much* prefer "standalone" and continue to use it (sorry?). > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 7:14 PM Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Cross referencing earlier discussion "[DISCUSS] Make Cloud mode the > default option in bin/solr" from May 2021: > >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/79xp2xfvqwhr9zccmsvjvj0hckgg5m6w > >>> > >>> Some valid arguments for an against in that thread. > >>> > >>> Ideally I'd prefer SIP-14 to be done before embedded zk is promoted as > the best way to run Solr. > >>> > >>> Jan > >>> > >>>> 23. feb. 2024 kl. 19:06 skrev Eric Pugh < > ep...@opensourceconnections.com>: > >>>> > >>>> During today’s community discussion the topic of moving to defaulting > to SolrCloud mode came up. > >>>> > >>>> The idea here is that when a user run’s “bin/solr start” it fires up > an embedded zookeeper. Same behavior as “bin/solr -c” in Solr 9.5. If > you have a Zookeeper Ensemble then “bin/solr start -z YOUR_ZK_SETUP” would > connect to the external ensemble instead. > >>>> > >>>> If you want to continue to use the class user managed mode, then > bin/solr start —user-managed maybe? Or bin/solr start —standalone ??? > >>>> > >>>> Other changes would be to go through the Ref Guide and where we have > both SolrCloud and non SolrCloud content that we make sure SolrCloud > content is at the top instead of at the bottom. > >>>> > >>>> To me, this feels like a change that would go on main. > >>>> > >>>> Thoughts? > >>>> > >>>> Eric > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________ > >>>> Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | > 434.466.1467 | http://www.opensourceconnections.com < > http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy < > http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal> > >>>> Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed < > https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw > > > >>>> This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to > be Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of > whether attachments are marked as such. > >>>> > >>> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org > > > > _______________________ > Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 | > http://www.opensourceconnections.com < > http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy < > http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal> > Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed < > https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw> > > This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to be > Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of > whether attachments are marked as such. > > -- http://www.needhamsoftware.com (work) https://a.co/d/b2sZLD9 (my fantasy fiction book)
