This makes complete sense to me and I'm still +1 w/ the process Arvind
outlined.

If a place w/ stable internet and a webex bridge is needed, we could have
the meeting at Cloudera's offices in Palo Alto or San Francisco.

-Abe

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Arvind Prabhakar <[email protected]> wrote:

> While I appreciate the enthusiasm of folks on this thread who would like to
> see such calls/meetings happen - I am a bit wary for the reasons noted
> below.
>
> Those of us who were on the Sqoop PMC during mid-2012 will recall that the
> project did such meetings before too. They will also recall that it raised
> some questions from the board regarding the conduct of these meetings.
> Specifically - to ensure that anyone from anywhere could join the calls,
> that no decisions were made on these calls, and that important discussions
> that sparked off in the call be brought back to the mailing list for
> further continuation and conclusion. Thanks to the members of the Sqoop PMC
> at that time, we followed this with due diligence and were able to ensure
> that these conditions were adequately met. The specifics of the process at
> that time were as follows:
>
> 1. A one-week notice for the meetings (eg [1]), using a system that allowed
> easy participation from anywhere in the world. At that time we were using
> WebEx call bridge that provided toll-free access numbers for various
> countries. The announcement was also posted on the JIRA being discussed in
> these meetings (eg [2])
>
> 2. The meeting minutes were sent out on the email list (eg [3]), and
> recorded on the wiki for posterity (eg [4]).
>
> 3. Any actionable items discussed were brought back to the Jira with full
> context and follow-up through the regular mailing-list/Jira resolution
> process (eg [5]).
>
> That was done in mid-2012. If we were to do this now, I would request the
> PMC to follow the process diligently to ensure that it stays open,
> transparent, and inclusive to the broader community that Sqoop has. To that
> affect, I would request the champions of these meetings to first document
> the full process on the wiki, discuss it on the mailing list, and put it to
> a vote for approval.
>
> [1] http://s.apache.org/9tF
> [2] http://s.apache.org/Pzb
> [3] http://s.apache.org/Map
> [4]
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SQOOP/Sqoop2+Weekly+Meeting+Minutes
> [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SQOOP-491
>
> Regards,
> Arvind Prabhakar
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:31 AM, SHANKAR REDDY <
> [email protected]
> > wrote:
>
> > '+1
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Sankara Telukutla
> > +1 510 936 0999
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Venkat Ranganathan <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Jarcec.   In fact myself and Jarcec spoke about this over couple
> > of
> > > meetings also.   Let us get the mechanics in order!
> > >
> > > Developers/Contributors
> > >
> > > Please share ideas on how you want to do it
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Venkat
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/16/15, 7:08 AM, "Jarek Jarcec Cecho" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >This is a wonderful idea Venkat, I’m strong +1 to have regular
> community
> > > >contributor sync ups :)
> > > >
> > > >Jarcec
> > > >
> > > >> On Feb 12, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Xu, Qian A <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Oh yes. Chinese people are in GMT+8
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Zhou, Richard [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > >> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 9:27 AM
> > > >> To: [email protected]
> > > >> Subject: RE: Sqoop developer meetings
> > > >>
> > > >> +1, one suggestion, we should choose a good time slot, since some
> > folks
> > > >> +are in China :)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >> Richard
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Abraham Elmahrek [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > >> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 9:24 AM
> > > >> To: [email protected]
> > > >> Subject: Re: Sqoop developer meetings
> > > >>
> > > >> +1
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Veena Basavaraj
> > > >><[email protected]>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> +1. Love to.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regards
> > > >>> Veena
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Venkat Ranganathan <
> > > >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hi Sqoop developers
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Over the years I have been involved here, we have  had one off
> > > >>>> meetings to discuss issues.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I think with the rapid clip of progress going on, it might be a
> good
> > > >>>> time to think about having more regular meetings (say scheduled
> > > >>>> every other
> > > >>> week
> > > >>>> or once a month) to discuss  Sqoop development tasks.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> What do you guys think?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Venkat
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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