Sorry for the delay I am down with flu for most of the week. Arvind requested that " first document the full process on the wiki, discuss it on the mailing list, and put it a vote for approval"
We can start with the documenting the process on the wiki. I will put up something shortly once I feel better and we can discuss and put it to vote as suggested. Sounds good? Thanks Venkat ________________________________________ From: Abraham Elmahrek <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 2:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Sqoop developer meetings Venkat, It has been about a week since the last member of the community has added to this thread. Let's set a date and location? -Abe On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Venkat Ranganathan < [email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Arvind for chiming in! I wanted to make sure we get an idea from > the contributors > About the mechanics before we write up a proposal and vote on it. > +1 for having a process along the lines outlined below. > > > Venkat > > > > > On 2/18/15, 1:50 PM, "Ahmed Radwan" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >Thanks Arvind! +1 for following this process. > > > >On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Arvind Prabhakar <[email protected]> > >wrote: > > > >> While I appreciate the enthusiasm of folks on this thread who would > >>like to > >> see such calls/meetings happen - I am a bit wary for the reasons noted > >> below. > >> > >> Those of us who were on the Sqoop PMC during mid-2012 will recall that > >>the > >> project did such meetings before too. They will also recall that it > >>raised > >> some questions from the board regarding the conduct of these meetings. > >> Specifically - to ensure that anyone from anywhere could join the calls, > >> that no decisions were made on these calls, and that important > >>discussions > >> that sparked off in the call be brought back to the mailing list for > >> further continuation and conclusion. Thanks to the members of the Sqoop > >>PMC > >> at that time, we followed this with due diligence and were able to > >>ensure > >> that these conditions were adequately met. The specifics of the process > >>at > >> that time were as follows: > >> > >> 1. A one-week notice for the meetings (eg [1]), using a system that > >>allowed > >> easy participation from anywhere in the world. At that time we were > >>using > >> WebEx call bridge that provided toll-free access numbers for various > >> countries. The announcement was also posted on the JIRA being discussed > >>in > >> these meetings (eg [2]) > >> > >> 2. The meeting minutes were sent out on the email list (eg [3]), and > >> recorded on the wiki for posterity (eg [4]). > >> > >> 3. Any actionable items discussed were brought back to the Jira with > >>full > >> context and follow-up through the regular mailing-list/Jira resolution > >> process (eg [5]). > >> > >> That was done in mid-2012. If we were to do this now, I would request > >>the > >> PMC to follow the process diligently to ensure that it stays open, > >> transparent, and inclusive to the broader community that Sqoop has. To > >>that > >> affect, I would request the champions of these meetings to first > >>document > >> the full process on the wiki, discuss it on the mailing list, and put > >>it to > >> a vote for approval. > >> > >> [1] http://s.apache.org/9tF > >> [2] http://s.apache.org/Pzb > >> [3] http://s.apache.org/Map > >> [4] > >> > >> > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SQOOP/Sqoop2+Weekly+Meeting+M > >>inutes > >> [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SQOOP-491 > >> > >> Regards, > >> Arvind Prabhakar > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:31 AM, SHANKAR REDDY < > >> [email protected] > >> > wrote: > >> > >> > '+1 > >> > > >> > Kind Regards, > >> > Sankara Telukutla > >> > +1 510 936 0999 > >> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Venkat Ranganathan < > >> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > Thanks Jarcec. In fact myself and Jarcec spoke about this over > >>couple > >> > of > >> > > meetings also. Let us get the mechanics in order! > >> > > > >> > > Developers/Contributors > >> > > > >> > > Please share ideas on how you want to do it > >> > > > >> > > Thanks > >> > > Venkat > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On 2/16/15, 7:08 AM, "Jarek Jarcec Cecho" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > >This is a wonderful idea Venkat, I’m strong +1 to have regular > >> community > >> > > >contributor sync ups :) > >> > > > > >> > > >Jarcec > >> > > > > >> > > >> On Feb 12, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Xu, Qian A <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Oh yes. Chinese people are in GMT+8 > >> > > >> > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> > > >> From: Zhou, Richard [mailto:[email protected]] > >> > > >> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 9:27 AM > >> > > >> To: [email protected] > >> > > >> Subject: RE: Sqoop developer meetings > >> > > >> > >> > > >> +1, one suggestion, we should choose a good time slot, since some > >> > folks > >> > > >> +are in China :) > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Regards > >> > > >> Richard > >> > > >> > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> > > >> From: Abraham Elmahrek [mailto:[email protected]] > >> > > >> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 9:24 AM > >> > > >> To: [email protected] > >> > > >> Subject: Re: Sqoop developer meetings > >> > > >> > >> > > >> +1 > >> > > >> > >> > > >> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Veena Basavaraj > >> > > >><[email protected]> > >> > > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> +1. Love to. > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> Regards > >> > > >>> Veena > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Venkat Ranganathan < > >> > > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>>> Hi Sqoop developers > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> Over the years I have been involved here, we have had one off > >> > > >>>> meetings to discuss issues. > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> I think with the rapid clip of progress going on, it might be a > >> good > >> > > >>>> time to think about having more regular meetings (say scheduled > >> > > >>>> every other > >> > > >>> week > >> > > >>>> or once a month) to discuss Sqoop development tasks. > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> What do you guys think? > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> Thanks > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> Venkat > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > >
